1881 CC Morgan

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by raider34, Jan 23, 2009.

  1. raider34

    raider34 Active Member

    Finally my coin arrived today in the mail:mouth:. I'm pretty excited it's my first Morgan CC. Just sharing it with the forum. I know the pics arent the best, but does anyone want to guess the grade? It was graded by PCGS in a new holder. -Mike
     

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  3. Irespire

    Irespire Senior Member

    I can only go MS-63 PL because I can't tell much from the pictures. Could easily be MS-65 DMPL if it's really a lot nicer.
     
  4. ryanbrooks

    ryanbrooks Active Member

    MS-64 DMPL. Too much marks/chatter on the cheek to be an MS65, so I'll take a guess of MS-64 with it being DMPL. Nice coin! :D
     
  5. ML94539

    ML94539 Senior Member

    MS-64 DMPL, maybe even MS-65 DMPL. Very nice.
     
  6. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    I'd say plain ole MS-65. Looks to be too much scruffing of the cameo to make PL and without the PL, there is no DM.

    Sweet! :thumb:

    Ribbit :)
     
  7. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    I am going to say MS-63/64PL but it might go DMPL! There is a lot of haze on the coin and the slab appears to have some scratches and possible hazing as well. I edited and cropped the pictures and have attached them. Check them out and make another or the same call!


    Frank


    Oh and I forgot to mention! It appears to be a "Closed CC" Variety.
     

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  8. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I am going with Frank 63 or 64 PL. Nice coin.
     
  9. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    Is that a VAM? :goofer:

    Ribbit :)
     
  10. tpsadler

    tpsadler Numismatist

    Very nice coin. Hard to tell from the photos if it is a DMPL but at the least it is a PL. My guess on a PCGS Grade would be MS-64.
     
  11. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Pictures could be sharper but all I see are luster grazes in some of the usual places and a coin that escaped scratches for the most part and any deep hits from reeded edges. I give it a 64 and I think that's a deep-mirror surface. Nice coin. I'd take a look at these on Heritage just to check if it could run with the 65s, but I'm pretty sure it has too many grazes for that.
     
  12. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**


    I was thinking that there is at least one Date of a Carson City minted Morgan Dollar that has a "Closed CC" Variety (VAM)**. However, I can't be sure without searching every VAM for the Carson City Minted Morgan's! While many of the Dates have several VAM's with an "Open CC" Mintmark, there are generally only a few with "Closed CC" Mintmarks. Considering this, if these are not considered as separate Varieties, I somewhat believe that they should be!

    **I could have confused the term with the term "Close CC" used in identfying some Carson City VAM'd Morgans! (Some have a close "CC" Mintmark and others have a "Wide CC" Mintmark.)


    Frank
     
  13. Boss

    Boss Coin Hoarder

    64 PL. Nice coin!!:kewl:
     
  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    The pics are out of focus, but based on what I can see I don't think that coin would be PL. The fields just don't seem to have enough reflectivity. But PCGS does have more lenient standards for PL/DMPL. I'd call it a 63.
     
  15. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    63.5 PL -- could go either way.
     
  16. raider34

    raider34 Active Member

    Yeah sorry about the pics one of these days I'll get it right.:hammer:
    Anyway One person nailed it. Graded MS-65 Good job Handsome Toad. As for VAM, I don't see any VAM's for the closed CC variety for the 1881, Only the "shifted to the left" variety, but then again I'm terrible at VAM's. Thanks Everyone for your posts. - Mike
     
  17. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    Now I get to do the Victory Dance (AKA: Church Lady Dance)! :D

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    Ribbit :cool:
     
  18. ryanbrooks

    ryanbrooks Active Member

    I don't see how Toad knows everything :goof:
     
  19. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    I don't! :p I just get lucky now-and-then. ;)

    Ribbit :D
     
  20. Irespire

    Irespire Senior Member

    Not enough reflectivity? Really? Looks pretty reflective to me, seen stuff with less in PL slabs easily.
     
  21. raider34

    raider34 Active Member

    I think Handsome Toad best explained it. I believe it definitely has the reflectivity to be at least PL, but there was just to many bag marks on the obv for it to get a PL.
     
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