1 Cent 1819

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Eduard, Jan 23, 2009.

  1. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    What do guys think?
    Comments on grade and Newcomb variety appreciated!
    Thanks,
    Eduard
     

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  3. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    My vote is N-2 and AU-53 (EAC EF-45). :D

    As always, wuv it! :thumb:

    Ribbit :)
     
  4. borgovan

    borgovan Supporter**

    AU-50 -- nice!
     
  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    no idea on the Newcomb #, but:
    AU-58, & beautiful.
     
  6. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    Very nice.

    AU sharpness. Cleaned, retoning. Minor planchet imperfection in front of Libbie's nose. Small cut under eye. Nice, balanced strike. Fairly early die state.

    EAC 35.

    Newcomb # ? Dunno. No book handy.
     
  7. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Thank you guys, that is quite a spread of grades: VF35-AU58....
    Those EAC grades sure are tough!

    I'll look up the N2 varity (thanks H.T). Hopefully it is a super rare R-5!

    Eduard
     
  8. vipergts2

    vipergts2 Jester in hobby of kings

    Great looking coin, I would say mid AU by the pics. :thumb:
     
  9. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    The coin is AU all day long. I too believe its an N-2
     
  10. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    Niiiiiiiiiiice!
    I agree with the AU details.
    And I tend to agree with the "cleaned" part. You've got red showing through, but no hourglass reflectivity pattern.
     
  11. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    It's only a R-2 but it's in great condition, which makes up for it. ;)

    Ribbit :)
     
  12. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    TPG grade AU 58 or 55 (I think the TPGs would consider this coin market acceptable -- and I agree).
    EAC grade VF 35 or XF 40 (net)
     
  13. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    p.s. EXCELLENT COIN!
     
  14. vipergts2

    vipergts2 Jester in hobby of kings

    Ok. stupid question time. (I love to learn!) What is an EAC grade?
     
  15. skm06

    skm06 Member

    There are no stupid questions. lol
    Have a look here.

    http://www.eacs.org/
     
  16. Fish

    Fish Half Cent Nut

    I'd say 55 net 40.

    EAC grading is grading per the Early American Coppers society standards. There are no hard and fast rules, but you take the details grade and subtract based on any flaws. Coins that start at a higher details grade will get a bigger deduction for the same issues that a lower-grade piece would. The best thing is that it's totally subjective - I hate scratches, so I'll deduct more for those than other people might, and rim dings don't bother me a ton but for some people they're the worst thing possible, so I don't take off that much for them (especially if they're fairly small) while other people would mark a coin down heavily for having them.

    As a point of comparison, if you had a nice, clean-looking 8 coin with the same issues as this one it might only get net-graded to 6 or 7.

    This is because coppers, especially older ones, tend to come with a number of problems. Clean, problem-free early coppers are a rarity that can sell to a specialist with a healthy premium.
     
  17. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    I also am leaning towards the AU-50 range.
     
  18. HAGOP

    HAGOP Member

    it's a 1819 Large Date variety,great condition.
    I would grade: AU
    50
     
  19. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Beautiful!! Very nice coin IMHO!! :thumb: I'll guess AU-53?

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  20. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    Anybody wanna challenge it's authenticity?:p
     
  21. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Nope - and I think AU53 or so. Very nice coin Eduard.
     
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