It's been a while that I have this coin: 6 Roubles 1841. I have never seen a 6 Roubles coin. very weird. http://cgi.ebay.com/1841-Russia-Rus...oryZ3393QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 1841 5 Roubles come GOLD but my coin is not GOLD,so weird,it's stainless steal or alluminium,but not a gold.I didn't test the material yet. (1844) 3 Roubles come Platinium, my coin looks like this coin,it's even in better condition,it's Uncirculated. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370148265409&indexURL=1#ebayphotohosting is there a 1841 6 Roubles coin???
Yup, there sure is. C#178 - 20.71gm, .6655 oz., minted in platinum. You better post a pic of that coin, they aint cheap. Value ranges from $1200 in F to $6500 in Unc.
I will post a photo tomorrow,First I have to test the weight,Then I have to test if it's Platinum. it's in UNC condition. It was found at my Great Mother (Mother of Grand-Mother's house) but it doesn't mean it can't be a fake! BECAUSE it was found with another FAKE LOOKING or UNFAKE FAKE or A COIN THAT YOU CAN'T GUESS it's fake or not,WEIRD COIN WHICH IS THE ONE IN THE PHOTO (photo taken long time ago) I'm intruducing you 100 FRANCS NAPOLEON III 1869 which should be GOLD not BRONZE! VERY WEIRD,THIS COIN EVEN HAS EDGE LETTERING! MONTHS I BELIEVED THAT THIS COIN WAS REAL,AFTER SEARCHING I DISCOVERED THAT ALL 100 FRANCS WERE MINT IN GOLD! THEN I THOUGHT IT SHOULD BE A SPECIMEN? I DUNNO,I THINK IT'S A QUESTION THAT I CAN'T FIND THE ANSWER. LOOK AT THIS COIN,LOOK AT IT'S DETAILS,IT'S UNFAKE! BUT MIGHT IT BE IT WAS COUNTERFIED 60-70 YEARS AGO?VINTAGE? WEIRD. I HOPE THE 6 ROUPLES WILL BE 20.71GM.TOMORROW I WILL KNOW... BTW 6 ROUPLES IS ALSO very detailed COIN!
I never knew platinum coinage went back so far into the 19th century. If anywhere, Russia is the place - the Urals are are at least were the leading source of platinum sands worldwide. I'd love to know more about platinum coins - how often were they minted, and by what nations? Where were the first ones coined?
Yes, Russia was the only country that ever had platinum as a circulating coinage struck from 1828-1845. Some European countries had gold plated platinum coins which were passed off as counterfeits but they were never official. The platinum ruble come in 3 denomination, 3, 6 and 12 rubles. Funny enough, they were never popular as they looked similar to silver. Today though, these are very popular in particular the 6 and 12 rubles are being relatively scarce. The price that GDJMSP quoted is severely underrated by Krause and I can imagine that a UNC 6 ruble coin can easily exceed 10k . There are an awful amount of counterfeit platinum coins which I hope yours isn't. the easiest to find out the weight of the 3 ruble coin, which should be around 10.35grams if I remember right. Do post photos where possible. 6 ruble should be 20.70grams but I don't have my reference at the moment.
Very cool information, thanks. Was the 1828 minting the first platinum coin known, would you know? Or did some ancient culture hammer out a few?
The Spanish if I am not wrong started to strike gold plated platinum counterfeit coins from the early 1800s. It was only Russia that struck coins intended for the general public.
There was an essai (basically a pattern) produced for this coin in 1868, as well as several other dates. But I can find no evidence of one being produced in 1869.
What material used for the pattern coin? the coins has A mintmark. OK I was disappointed when I weighted my coin today. 7.2 GRAMS! BUT HOW CAN I BELIEVE THIS COIN SHOULD BE A FAKE COIN? LOOK AT IT. Sorry for low quality & small size photos, The obverse has a proof like/ heavy mirror background.back of the eagles. So what do u think? Pattern? Replica? Proof? Fake? OR COPY of an orginal (FAKE)... REMEBER! 7.2 GRAMS not 20.7!
Forgive me for asking, but why would anyone make a platinum coin and plate it with gold? Or was platinum a cheap metal back in the day just like aluminum was a precious one?
Assuming it's the same size as the original, it's too heavy @ 7.2g to be aluminum. It's most likely a combination of Zinc, Antimony or Tin.
Unfortunately, platinum coins ARE heavy. In your case, it's no where close to the specified 20.71gram of platinum. There is no reason why pattern platinum coin must be made in 1841 as the first 6 ruble coin was struck in 1829. It just makes no sense. Try and check if your scale is really working or not. You can test it by weighing some circulated coins and compare it against the specification to see if your scale does work. To answer spiffy's question, yes, platinum used to be cheaper than gold and hence used as a base for gold plating.
