1862 Seated Dollar - Your frank opinions please

Eduard,

Since I am Frank, I will give you my frank opinion!

I see nothing to make me believe that the coin is a counterfeit. I have examined many Seated Dollars, genuine and counterfeits alike and IMHO, your coin is 100% authentic and a beautiful specimen even if it has been dipped. In fact, if it were not for the dipping, I could see a TPG giving it a Market Grade of at least a MS-62 due to it's rarity. The combination of a low mintage and yes the fact that most of these were sent overseas in payment of War debt, makes your coin extremely rare...especially in it's grade/condition.

I agree with Treashunt (another Frank with a frank opinion) about how to retone the coin! However, I don't agree with you about placing it in the brown envelope and not re-dipping it first! Normally I would not recommend this (re-dipping) action as the process tends to dull the luster on a coin but in the case of your coin, the damage has already been done. The blotchy spots of bad toning that are on the coin now, will be much more enhanced if the coin is not re-dipped to remove them before placing it in the brown envelope to retone once again. If Walmart is still in business in Germany, I would recommend trying to get the Silver Jewelry Cleaner that is sold in the Jewelry Department of most Walmart Stores. If you still have one near you and they don't have the Silver Jewelry Cleaner, they should be able to order it for you. If not, then you might be able to order it yourself. The cleaner is called Silver Jewery Cleaner with "Revitalizing" above the name and it is made by Connoisseurs. I have included the link below to the Silver Jewelry Cleaner that you should get. Unlike the normal Dipping solution that Coin Dealers use, this Silver Cleaner will not remove the luster from Silver coins if used correctly, in that I mean sparingly. The container has a wash tub in which you place the coin, then submerge the coin in the Silver Cleaner. If you give the coin one, two or three quick dips, then quickly rinse the coin thoroughly under cold water and pat (not rub) dry in a soft bath towel, all should be well. The blotchy spots of bad toning should have been removed and once the coin has been allowed to air dry and acclimate to room temperature, you can place it in the brown envelope. With the blotchy spots of bad toning gone, the coin should retone in the brown envelope more evenly and with a more pleasing outcome!

http://www.connoisseurs.com/jc/LDC_silver.htm

Thanks for sharing another one of your beautiful and rare coins!


Frank

 

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that looks genuine.

 

Thank you VERY much BQcoins and Jlloring for your comments, specially for that link and comparative pictures you guys posted. I have already bookmarked them. Thanks again!


I thank you heartfully Frank! i always appreciate your input and opinions.
I was a bit afraid of dipping the coin for fear of ruining it - after all, the reverse is really quite respectable.
(Unfortunately as you mention, Walmart has now pulled out of Germany (that was our main source of Mexican dips and chips!), so it would be difficult to get the product you recommend).
However, i did buy a coin dipping solution a couple of weeks ago, which i am using to clean some some of my detecting finds. The seller told me that it is a mild solution. It works quite well, maybe i'll use that.

Once again thank you frank and everybody else for your opinions

Regards,
Eduard

 

My vote is still 100% for counterfeit.

 

Give it up Isaiah.

 

You wouldn't happen to own a real nice trade dollar from china would you?

 

I don't know who this Isaiah/Lafayette character is, or why he/she proffers the opins they do, but the consensus of the knowledgeable personages within our forum is that the OP's coin is indeed authentic - just at some point had gone through a cleaning as many coins from that era indeed have at one time or another.

The miscreant poster cannot proffer anything of substance to support their argument to the contrary and should give it up. But trolls do like to continue on in the abyss of their ignominy.

 

Just because your grandma gave you a silver dollar for every christmas for 15 years, doesn't make you a collector for 15 years. And you like to go eat Chinese.


Stop posting pics of a coin and saying hear is my reason it doesnt look like the pic. I have 1000s of coins and not to many look the same. There like freaking snowflakes.

 

And you're apparently 100% counterfeit too.

 

It is extremely hard to give credibility to someone asking for opinions on a 1914-D Lincoln Cent in which the Auction states that both coins in the auction are "Altered Date" Cents but the OP was apparently hoping that the Seller was wrong!


Frank

 

That's Layafette's (aka Isaiah, aka $incere) method of operation. I believe he will disappear soon...

 

Not soon enough!!!! I'm new to the forum and am tired of this guy. No credability whatsoever.

 

Hmmmm... You're a new user, presumably with no knowledge of Isaiah, yet you seem to know he was from New York....? Nobody here said that.

 

I agree with you completely.

 

...that's because you're the same person.

 

What?

 

Very good CamaroDMD!!!! LOL

 

Three Faces of Eve comes to mind today...

 

Actually Isaiah was (is) from Kansas City and he is 15 years old (which should explain a LOT).

 

This new personage which have manifested itself herein claims to be from NYC, and coincidentally registered on the same public library computer as Isaiah, now he is busy spouting off in PRWE.