Reunited After 1,752 Years!

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  1. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I picked up this Alexandrian Tetradrachm of Salonina for a song, I think because the seller listed it poorly and I was the only bidder. While all that is well and good, the better part is that I can now reunite her with her husband, Gallienus, after his murder at the siege of Milan in 268.

    From what I've read, there are two theories as to Cornelia Salonina's fate:
    1) She was spared (not likely in my opinion)
    2) She was murdered along with her husband and other family members. Makes the most sense to me.

    The coolest part of these coins is that they were both minted in the last year of Gallienus' reign, so they are both 1,752 (give or take a few months! lol) old.


    Salonina
    Year 15 (267/268 AD)
    Potin Tetradrachm
    Alexandria, Egypt
    Obverse: KOΡNHΛIA CAΛΩNEINA CEB, draped bust right
    Reverse: L-IE, eagle standing left, wreath in beak, palm-branch behind
    Salonina, Potin Tetradrachm, Alexandria Egypt, Year 15, 267-268 AD.png

    Gallienus
    Potin Tetradrachm
    Alexandria, Egypt
    Year 15 = 267-268 AD
    Obverse: AVT K Π ΛIK ΓAΛΛIHNOC CEB, laureate and cuirassed bust right
    Reverse: Eagle standing facing, head left with wreath in beak; palm branch left, LIE to right
    ex: @Justin Lee
    Gallienus, Alexandria Egypt, Year 15, Tetradrachm.png

    Thanks for looking and feel free to post anything that is in any way connected! :)
     
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  3. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Congrats on your "steal":D
     
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  4. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Hey now, I paid for it! :p
     
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  5. Ocatarinetabellatchitchix

    Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Well-Known Member

    Nice duo @furryfrog02 . I didn't know you are a Rome Antique guy.....
     
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  6. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I’m not THAT old ;)
     
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  7. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Salonina the Fair, with a good portrait

    EGYPT, Alexandria

    Billon Tetradrachm, 23mm, 9.8 grams, 12h

    Dated RY 15 (A.D. 267-268)

    Obverse: KOPNHALA CAAONEINA CEB;
    Diademed and draped bust right.

    Reverse: Eagle standing right, holding wreath in beak; palm in left field, L IE to right

    Reference: Koln 2983; Dattari 5346; Milne 4189; Curtis 1642; Emmett 3854

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  8. bcuda

    bcuda El Ibérico loco

    That is probably the best looking Salonina I have seen on a coin. they usually seem to be very weak in strike and even then the quality of the bust is bad.
     
  9. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    Congrats on their reunion! And they are both RY 15!

    I have a handful of these 2, so I'll post my favorites...

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    Gallienus, Ruled 253-268 AD
    BL Tetradrachm, Egypt, Alexandria
    Struck 261/262 AD

    Obverse: AVT K Π ΛIK ΓAΛΛIHNOC CEB, laureate and cuirassed bust right, seen from front, slight drapery on left shoulder.
    Reverse: Eagle standing left, holding wreath in beak, palm over shoulder, ENATOV to left and L to right (year 9=261/262 AD).
    References: Emmett 3802, Dattari 5286, Köln 2908


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    Cornelia Salonina, Wife of Gallienus who ruled 253-268 AD
    AE Tetradrachm, Egypt, Alexandria
    Struck 264/265 AD

    Obverse: KOPNHΛIA CAΛΩNЄINA CЄB, diademed and draped bust of Salonina right.
    Reverse: Eirene standing left, holding olive branch and sceptre; palm before, IB/L (date), (RY 12 = 264/265 AD).
    References: Köln 2969; Dattari 5331; Milne 4102; Emmett 3855
     
  10. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Those are both great! Gallienus' beard is gnarly! and Salonina's portrait is really detailed!
    I would like to add some different reverses to my Alexandrian Tet collection, especially some with more of an Egyptian flare. So far, I've just got eagles and Nikes...not that I'm complaining :)
     
  11. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I don't have a matching pair, but here is my happy couple
    Gallienus Siscia RIC 572.JPG
    Salonina Rome RIC 25Q.JPG
     
  12. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

  13. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Mine is a year older at year 14. Tyche is hardly special compared to Nike and eagles.
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    It bothers me a little that there are no year 16 coins since the Alexandrian year started the end of August (29th normally but 30th in a leap year). Gallienus is said to have died in September (date?) but word would not have reached Egypt immediately so it seems that there should be rare LIS coins.
     
  14. Broucheion

    Broucheion Well-Known Member

    Hi,

    Great coins so far! My Solonina has a bit of a lead foot.

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    COMMENTS:
    Marcel Jungfleisch (1879-1958) was one of the leading numismatists in the twentieth century. He was from Cairo, Egypt and wrote extensively on Egyptian numismatics. He was a professor of Conservatoire National des Arts et Métiers and a member of the Institute of Egypt. His extensive writings covered Islamic bronze weights from Egypt, Ayyubid glass jetons, Islamic Art Network, Roman Egyptian coins, Nubians in Egypt (1946), Nomes of Egypt (1946), and wrote for the Revue Numismatique in 1955. Sotheby's sold his collection in two vast sales in 1972.

    16 Feb, 1972 M Jungfleisch collection Part 1: Ancient and Middle Eastern Coins, and a Fine Numismatic Library. 239 lots. 24 pages + 2 plates. 156 x 246mm. Sotheby.

    16 Mar, 1972 Marcel Jungfleisch collection Part 2: The Coinage of Roman Alexandria together with Ancient, English and Foreign Coins. 239 lots. 44 pages + 4 b&w plates. 156 x 246mm. Sotheby.

    This coin is Ex Alex G Malloy (NY, USA): Auction 47 (17 Oct 1997), Lot #359


    And the hubby:

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    - Broucheion
     
  15. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

  16. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Cool couple @Ryro

    Mine was already reunited when I bought them from our own @Barry Murphy

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    Gallienus, Tetradrachm - Alexandria mint, year 14 (AD 266/270)
    AVTKTTLIKGALLIHNOCCEB, laureate and cuirassed bust right
    Eagle standing left, head right, with wreath in beak. LIdelta in left field, palm in right field
    9.60 gr 22 mm
    Ref : Emmett # 3804, RCV # 10582
    Ex Barry P Murphy


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    Salonina, Tetradrachm Alexandria mint, year 15 (AD 267/268)
    KOPNHLIACALWNEINACEB, diademed and draped bust right
    Eagle standing right, holding wreath in beak. LIE in right field
    11.61 gr 22 mm
    Ref : Emmett # 3854, RCV # 10723
    Ex Barry P Murphy

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  17. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    I agree that the eagles are sort of plain vanilla. If you want the really cool scenes on the reverse they start around the time of Nero and continue on til the third century, with the 2nd century being the sweet spot with Hadrian and Antoninus Pius...
     
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  18. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I do have an Antoninus Pius but it is a pretty vanilla background as well. I love the ones with the Egyptian imagery.
     
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  19. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    SALONINA

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    RI Salonina wife of Gallienus 254-268 CE AE Ant 3.61g 20mm Rome mint 267-268 CE crescent Deer Walking delta RIC V 16


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    RI Gallienus 253-268 CE Ant Abundantia S-secunda
     
  20. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Gallienus had such a gnarly looking beard - at least based off his coins. Part of me wishes I had a time machine to be able to go back and see just how amazingly gross it was.
     
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  21. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Looks OK actually on this sestertius. But probably it got more gnarly over time.



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