Medieval Women

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  1. RAGNAROK

    RAGNAROK Naebody chaws me wi impunitY

    Congrats, vera coool yer nu 3lady-set! What an upgrade!! Killer Eleanor!!!
     
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  3. RAGNAROK

    RAGNAROK Naebody chaws me wi impunitY

    :wideyed: O M G!!! What a shame! Her reliquary (in addition to 57 coins and 10 medals) has been stolen! :(
    https://www.francetvinfo.fr/economi...inestimable_2705976.html#xtor=AL-53-[article]
    List of the stolen coins and medals:
    https://www.cgb.fr/pdf/musee_dobree.pdf
    :arghh: Christ, what a mess! :arghh:
     
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  4. RAGNAROK

    RAGNAROK Naebody chaws me wi impunitY

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  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator



    I'm a huge ELO fan, but I think the Mediæval Bæbes might be a more appropriate musical selection, given the title of this thread. :):singing:

     
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  6. ycon

    ycon Renaissance Man

    Here's a new one from me: a theodora fouree. It got no love when I posted it in its own thread, but perhaps it will here. https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-...urée-into-byzantine-gold.368839/#post-4965581

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    Theodora, 1055-1056. Fourée Tetarteron nomisma (Gold plated copper, 18 mm, 2.30 g, 6 h). IC XC Facing bust of Christ Pantokrator, raising right hand in benediction and holding Book of Gospels in left. Rev. [[ΘЄΟΔωΡ ΑVΓΟVCT] Facing bust of Theodora, wearing crown with pendilia, saccos, and loros, and holding jeweled scepter in right hand, globus cruciger in left. DOC 2. SB 1838.
     
  7. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    @ancientcoinguru, Many thanks for the link! ...All I can think of, from my own medieval coins, are coissues, in the names of, for instance, a Staufen empero and (sorry for the sexist construct) his queen. But this will definitely reward perusal.
     
  8. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    @stevex6, Liking your avatar, anyway. ...If I ever was going to get a cartoon t-shirt, it would have to be Pepe le Peu (right, Americanized by (?) Hanna /Barbera).
     
  9. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    A fascinating article. I had actually been wondering, after seeing this thread, whether Matilda issued any coins during her conflict with Stephen; the article answers the question in the affirmative.

    I do wonder what the author could possibly have been thinking when he wrote this on the article's first page:

    Excerpt from article re women on medieval coins, p. 1 -- erroneous statement re Roman coins.jpg

    What??? I guess all the coins with portraits of empresses on the obverse, not to mention mothers of emperors, etc., don't exist? A statement like that doesn't exactly bolster the author's credibility, but I guess he knew or knows his medieval coins.

    Unfortunately, I have nothing in between Roman Imperial coins and Tudor coins issued in the name of women. So here's my own Elizabeth I sixpence:

    England, Elizabeth I, AR Sixpence 1582. Obv. Crowned Bust left, Tudor Rose behind, all within inner circle with legend around, ELIZAB.D.G.ANG.FR.ET.HIB.REGINA [Elizabeth by the Grace of God Queen of England France and Ireland] / Rev. Quartered shield over long cross fourchée with divided date above, all within inner circle with legend around, Mintmark Sword at 12 o'clock, POSVI DEV.AD IVTORE M·MEV· [I have made God my helper] 15 - 82. Spink 2572 (ill.). 25 mm., 3.2 g.

    Elizabeth I sixpence Obv. 1.jpg

    Elizabeth I sixpence Rev. 2.jpg

    I used to have a shilling with the facing obverse busts of Mary I and Philip, but it was among the many British coins and medals I sold.
     
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  10. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist

    I think the women on Roman coins all have the title ‘Augusta’ do they not? I think his statement is still accurate in that sense
     
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  11. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    Very, Very solid example, @DonnaML. ...Mentioned this before, but one post-medieval indulgence I allowed myself, over one interval, was to collect pennies and halfgroats from Elizabeth to Charles II. (...Only by type, but including multiple examples of James I and Charles II, the latter including an early milled halfgroat.) Still looking for the .jpgs of those; nope, they're still here, along with the examples themselves.
     
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  12. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    ....Well, as people who could tell you more about this than I ever could might say, with the profusion of family members depicted on them, probably not so much. ...Unless the article (...and it will take wading all the way through this thread to find it --which is what needs to happen anyway) specified women appearing on the obverses of imperial coins. Then you probably have a point.
     
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  13. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    I hope you post the photos sometime. I used to have a very nice Henry VIII groat (portrait in profile) and an Edward VI fine shilling, as well as gold coins of James I, Charles I, Charles II, and James II, but, again, they were among the coins and medals I had to sell.
     
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  14. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    Plenty of women were depicted on the obverses of Roman Imperial coins without the title Augusta, particularly mothers and even grandmothers of emperors. Besides, the author said Augustus, not Augusta, and said family members were depicted on the reverse ,not the obverse.
     
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  15. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    Thanks, Donna. As far as finding the .jpgs, Keep those Good Vibes Coming!!!
     
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  16. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Well, it got some love from me during the auction... just not quite enough! :D
     
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  17. ycon

    ycon Renaissance Man

    It makes me happy that someone with as excellent taste as you was the underbidder. I'm sorry we can't both have it! When I first saw the coin pop up in my monday morning numisbids email I nearly jumped and thought "that coin will be MINE!" You know those moments...
     
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  18. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Oh I sure do...

    Thanks for softening the blow with your kind compliment! :D Enjoy the great coin, I doubt we'll see another anytime soon!
     
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