need help with grade

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by wrexx, Oct 17, 2020.

  1. wrexx

    wrexx Member

    I have come across a penny and would like to know what you all think it would grade at. I know the reverse is a tad blurry but did not realize before placing in safety box.
    Thanks
    Wrexx
    1909s vdb obverse.jpg 1909s vdb reverse.jpg
     
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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    AG Details - Damaged. Nice to have though . I don't have an S .
     
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  4. derkerlegand

    derkerlegand Well-Known Member

  5. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

  6. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I'm not sure what's going with the obverse. Strange looking. A better image of the reverse would be cool.
     
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  7. derkerlegand

    derkerlegand Well-Known Member

    kinda like lamination
     
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  8. Inspector43

    Inspector43 Celebrating 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    Looks like an 09 S VDB. Is that right?
     
  9. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    If it is ( Lamination)then I'm at G4
     
  10. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Looks like it but a nice image of the mint mark and the V.D.B. on the reverse would help.
     
  11. manny9655

    manny9655 Well-Known Member

    G4/VG10. The reverse is less worn than the obverse. So probably a net of VG8 damaged
     
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  12. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Idhair, Why? Thank you
     
  13. wrexx

    wrexx Member

    I figured I would need to post a couple more pictures but I will not be able to until Monday since I placed it in the safety deposit box with the wishful thinking it might actually be worth getting graded. Guess it is another one for an air tight. Thanks all for taking a look and have a great Sunday
     
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  14. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

  15. wrexx

    wrexx Member

    Is everyone referring to the obverse when you all say lamination. It almost looks like scratches but there's no scratch or as if something was on it and kept some areas from browning if that makes sense. I will take better pictures all the way around Monday so maybe that will help someone recognize what caused it.
    Thanks again
     
  16. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC Supporter

    I have a 1909 VDB with similar appearance on only the obverse. It is caused by something, but it isn't lamination. I believe it is environmental damage.

    That being said, I think if it was sent in it would come back labeled as such. Maybe someone else has another opinion but.
     
  17. Inspector43

    Inspector43 Celebrating 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    Take it out of the holder. The cyclophane is distorting the image. And it looks like woodgrain.
     
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  18. JeffC

    JeffC Go explore something and think a happy thought!

    Yes. I can see both the "S" and the "VDB."
     
  19. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    No, it's isn't. It's better than that. More in the vicinity of VG10 to maybe not quite F12, I'd say. Here are the PCGS/Photograde standards. Scroll to the left.

    There's no way to say without seeing your coin. The coin in the original post here has some improper alloy mixing that creates a "woodgrain" pattern. They're affectionately referred to as "woodies" by some people.
     
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  20. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    He He, ok . Oh lord, at best VG10
     
  21. beaver96

    beaver96 Well-Known Member

    Fine12, I'd send in to be graded. Even in a details slab it would be worth it.
     
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