Fat bottomed Venus/when bad photography equals an amazing score!

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  1. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    I recently purchased that MOST sought after Julia Domna, the one with Venus voluptuous rump hanging out.
    This one would be my first sestertius of the type. Only problem, the sellers photos sure looked like I'd gotten a good deal due to the coin having been stripped of its original patina:
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    Cut to present time. My new sestertius showed up looking like this:
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    Julia Domna
    (193-217 AD). AE Sestertius (27 mm, 14,60 g), Roma (Rome), 193-194 AD.
    Obv. IVLIA DOMNA AVG, draped bust right.
    Rev. VENERI VICTR / S - C, Venus, naked to waist, standing right, holding apple and palm and leaning on column.
    RIC IV, 1, p. 207, 842 (R).
    (Any corrections on my identification are appreciated... @Roman Collector or anyone else versed in these)

    Amazing chocolate patina with sprinkles of cinnamon!!! The original patina is still there!!!! (plus a few gobs of additional fudge:troll:).
    I was shocked and delighted.



    So please share those fat bottomed Venii (you tell me the plural for Venuses), coins you got a great deal on due to poor photography (Frank Robinson anyone) or whatever adds to the fun;):)
     
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  3. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Veneres.
    https://www.etymonline.com/word/venus#:~:text=late Old English, from Latin,to desire, strive for."

    I have two sestertii but neither is high end. My 'better' one has a scrape on the face revealing an orichalcum cheek and there are two deep scratches on the reverse. The worst fault is that, like 99% of these I have seen, the reverse is flatly struck. It is full legend which is special. Stacks, 1989 (for within $5 of the next coin)
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    I think I like the second one a bit better even though it only wins over the first in one category. This one has better die style. Of these that I have seen, this is my favorite portrait die. I would love to have one from these dies as good overall as my other one. I doubt I will ever sell it. Pegasi, 1988
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    The third coin is an as and not bad for these except for the flat bottom. It was ex. NFA in 1990 and will not be upgraded unless I miss my guess. It was half again the price of either of the two sestertii but asses (the plurals of the coin and the animal are spelled the same even though the coin shares the singular spelling with the adverb, conjunction, preposition and interjection) are more scarce.
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  4. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I’m kinda bummed the prototype statue doesn’t survive, far as I know
     
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  5. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I guess I'd better go find some sixth-graders to hang out with this evening. :oops:
     
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  6. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    What a score, @Ryro!

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    I do love me some bare-bottomed Venus Victrix!

    Domna VENERI VICTR Sestertius.jpg
    Julia Domna, AD 193-217
    Roman oricalchum sestertius, 21.41 g, 28.8 mm.
    Rome, AD 194, issue 4.
    Obv: JULIA DOMNA AVG, bare-headed and draped bust, r.
    Rev: VENERI VICTR SC, Venus, naked to waist, standing r., holding apple and palm, resting l. elbow on column.
    Refs: RIC-842; BMCRE-488; Cohen-195; Sear-6631; Hill-113.
     
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  7. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

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  8. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..i love that coin...and i love this one too! ^^ ( i gotta git silverin':p) Domna Venus   Numerian alex. tet 001.JPG Domna Venus   Numerian alex. tet 004.JPG from the Ryro collection
     
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  9. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Yeah, no luck. All Roman knock offs. Though, if you're feeling randy...
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    You can sneak around to the reverse of the Venus de Milo:
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    Don't yell her I told ya though or she'll have me turned into a piece of her toilet paper... minus the smell, I guess there could be worse ways to spend eternity:troll:
     
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  10. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    Sorry, @Ryro, but that involuntarily set off the Sir Mix-A-Lot in my head. ...With further apologies, a worthy alternative to Queen.
    ...Inexorably eliciting the AC/DC, with the chorus that I used to like to paraphrase: "...And he's got Big Books, and she's got Big Books. But We've Got the Biggest (...) Books Of Them All!"
    Sorry for all of that. Just, apparently, not enough to stop myself in time.
     
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  11. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    @Ryro, just, This Already Makes you an Evil Person. You know that....
     
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  12. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I posted this before, BUTT, I will post it AGAIN!

    Umm... VICTORY Got Back

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    RI
    AE As
    Trajan CE 98-117
    26mm 11.0g
    Rome Laureate Draped -
    SENATVS POPVLVSQVE ROMANVS, Victory R wreath palm S-C
    RIC 675

     
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  13. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    @JeffB, you're so not going to like what I had to say. I'm scared already.
     
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  14. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

  15. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    @Alegandron, Oh, Dang, Now I have to listen to it again. :<}}}
    ...And, Oh, No, now I just did, again. Just, never mind. No, it doesn't Stop here, it only Starts here. As an initial, um, opening criterion. ...See what you did?
     
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  16. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    No, @ominus1, if it was me (consider the source ...if you didn't, already), I'd be leaving it alone.
     
  17. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..oh, doing it for the Saturday nite free for all on a previously silvered coin...:)
     
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  18. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the reminder, @ominus1; now, I dimly remember your prior post. Except, do you really want to do that to this example? Only that, if it was mine, illiterate as I am in the (already, just from here) various disciplines of cleaning and silvering coins, I would be scared to touch that one. ...Thank you, in either capacity.
     
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  19. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..you still have time to catch the show...i just finished :)
     
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  20. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    ...And, meanwhile, @ominus1, when you initially said, '[...] previously silvered,' I read that as 'originally silvered.' Thank you. Now, it's starting to register. ...Takes some of us longer....
     
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