Strange Quarter

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by phreebsd, Nov 24, 2008.

  1. phreebsd

    phreebsd Junior Member

    Hey folks! New to the site but not to collecting.
    My uncle recently passed away and I inherited his collection to incorporate into mine.

    He had a coin tube which contains several error coins of which i will show in time here but the quarter is what I have a question about. I've seen many types of errors and have read about their causes but this is something i've never seen.
    It's a 1982 Quarter ( i think that's the correct date, im currently at work)
    but it's swollen; like the inside of it is filled with a hollow space. and it's not a slight swelling either.
    When dropped on a table it sounds similar to other quarters of the same vintage.
    I will post several pics of it when i get home just wondering if anyone has seen something like this.
    thanks!
     
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  3. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    Hi,

    Welcome to Coin Talk and we hope that you will stay! We have seen just about everything that there is to be seen and there are quite a few reasons why that the Quarter is swollen from an air bubble which developed inside the planchet when it was created to Post-Mint (Man-Made) manipulation. However, it is really hard to make any type of assessment of the coin without pictures! If you can post some pictures we will take our best stab at determining the cause.


    Frank
     
  4. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    [​IMG] phreebsd to the forum. Looking forward to those pictures.
     
  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Welcome,
    But,
    No opinions on mystery coins without pictures.
     
  6. phreebsd

    phreebsd Junior Member

    hey folks almost forgot to post it. Any insight as to what i have would be much appreciated.

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  7. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    I'd say the coin was heated with a torch until the clad layers separated.
     
  8. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    As a machinist working with steel and other metals heat is one of the few things that can deform a metal like you have with your quarter .
    rzage
     
  9. phreebsd

    phreebsd Junior Member

    i kinda figured heat was the only thing that could have done it.
    i have no clue where it came from :(
     
  10. yeoldstore

    yeoldstore New Member

    Neat looking coin would make a great talking piece or it is a very rare coin that nobody has ever seen before. Or it was zapped with martian heat gun..there out there you know..I know cause....just because. Happy Thankgiving!
     
  11. Magman

    Magman U.S. Money Collector

    still cool though!

    plus, it only costs .25$
     
  12. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    My next question is: Can you squeeze the bubble and compress it? If not, then I would say that the Cladding has not separated from the core but the core has expanded. Since it is quite possible that the core had minute air bubbles (pockets) throughout it's make-up, then heating would cause the air bubbles to expand and thus expand the planchet. Another possibility would be that someone drilled a tiny hole on the edge and injected air into the planchet as it was heated, thus causing a similar effect as above.


    Frank
     
  13. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    First, it's hard to see how heat would affect only the center of the coin. Enough heat to warp/expand/vaporize the center of the core would certainly affect the edges too.

    Second, your third picture (the edge of the coin) shows no evidence of the copper core - this should be a clad coin.

    This may be something other than a real quarter. What is the diameter and the weight?
     
  14. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    Davidh

    If the heat is applied by a torch then the heat right at the tip of the flame will be much hotter than the coin will be just 1/2 inch away thus heating just the center of the coin enough to bubble it. The longer the heat is applied the more the bubble on thecoin will expand

    high school metal shop!

    Richard
     
  15. phreebsd

    phreebsd Junior Member

    huntsman53 - i tested to see and yes I can push it in with a lot of force so it does feel as if a thin layer has bubbled up. it's still very hard though. I cant push in the whole thing but i bit it and i could put a dent in it

    davidh - it's a real quarter. it has the coppering around the ring.
     
  16. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    If there was a air pocket between the layers and heat was applied then of course the air would expand causing the metal to warp. That's what I think happened here.
     
  17. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**


    Then it is what Hobo stated.



    Frank
     
  18. Paulie609

    Paulie609 New Member

    Hey,

    I have a quarter that i found like 2 years ago it also has a bubble in it, it looks just like the one you got, have you found out why it's like that i'll post pictures of mine later
     
  19. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Bret - I bet it won't work is a soda machine. I wonder if it was from 9-11?

    Ruben
     
  20. phreebsd

    phreebsd Junior Member

    whoa.. i never thought of that. i wonder!
     
  21. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member


    I'm always feeding you good ideas.

    Ruben
     
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