Just as a reminder - he has stated several times over the years that he does not take pictures of the entire coin because with the scope he's using you can't even see the whole coin. And, if as I suspect he is, he's using pics from his archives, then there are no pics of the entire coin. And since the coin is long gone, (sent back to its owner), it's not possible to take pics of the coin anymore. So no matter how much people want to see pics of the whole coin, it's simply not something he can do because there are none.
Jeopardy! style, give us the answers and make us guess the questions. I don't prefer either of the two options, I'm also partial to "Cash Cab red light challenge" format if that helps.
I do agree with some other feedback that you should post answers or clues faster than you do.... Typically, 24-48 hours is the attention span for a guesses/quizzes like these. For something like these, any longer than that and people get bored, don't check back - or get frustrated by a lack of resolution. In the future, @Insider , it would be better to post answers or clues after a day or two (for example, your current quiz has been up for 4 days with no answers).
physics-fan3.14, posted: "I understand why Insider is doing it this way, but I think a lot of people would like to see "the whole coin. In some of the cases posted, seeing the whole coin would make the question immediately obvious to many - but even still, that would be educational for many." thomas mozzillo, posted: "If a photo of the entire coin would make the answer immediately obvious, then don't show it. If it doesn't matter then please show the entire coin." Showing the entire coin will add absolutely nothing. It is just like asking to see the obverse and the edge when only the reverse is shown and the question is: "What is the mintmark on this Morgan dollar?" We are looking at small characteristics that are found on just a small part of the coin. OK, future quizzes will be like my first few. Detractors be dammed. Don't assume anything. Lehigh96, recommended: "Post the micrographs that you like so much for your guessing games but then also post a photo of the entire coin but do it in such a fashion that it doesn't spoil your guessing game." N O spells NO. 1. I cannot take a sharp image of a coin. 2. Read Doug's comments. 3. FOR THE LAST TIME , if I show a "lint mark" the size of a pinhead between two letters and ask what it is and why you think so YOU DON'T NEED TO SEE THE REST OF THE COIN. Previously, I suggested something you could do...run your own quiz and stop accusing me of being a "edited know-it-all" trying to embarrass the other CT members! Thanks in advance.
I strongly disagree, but it's your party. For example, I could post this. Without knowing the denomination, year, mint, and seeing the rest of the coin, both sides, most, if not all, of the answers will be wrong or incomplete, because the context is critical. Then if I start doling out little tidbits of information and probing the respondents, it would end up causing people to think that I'm just trying to prove how smart I am and you're not. Which, honestly and no offense, is how you come off. I realize if we did this in person it would be much different, but the internet is harsh.
1. We don't need a sharp image of the entire coin, just one that identifies it, a photo from your cellphone would suffice. 2. If you are using archive photos, then just tell us what the coin is, like you originally did in this thread. 3. Mint processes have changed over 200 years. When the coin was minted will often be relevant to the types of guesses that people will offer after seeing your micrographs. FOR THE LAST TIME, I will not stop accusing you of being a "edited know it all" until you stop trying to embarrass me and other CT members. Please note, I made no such accusation in your latest quiz, because you actually told us that it was a Morgan Dollar. For the record, I do run my own quizzes in the form of guess the grade threads, and I try to provide as much information about the coin as possible in those threads.
I DISAGREE 100%. This would have been an excellent quiz. Challenge: Ask @messydesk what the mint of this Morgan dollar is and what do we call the rim breaks.
Lehigh96, Because of looney accusations about my ego and intentions plus the whining from a few members here, I recently posted this NON-quiz: New Quiz, No tricks, No twists, No challenge, No fun. What do you think happened to this coin with white, baking soda residue remaining trapped inside the recess of the letters after it was cleaned? The poll shows what the members want...a challenge. That's what they are going to get. I will take your suggestion and put as much info about the coin as I know; however, a funny thing happened at the mints of the world. During certain time periods the coins of various countries appear to have quite similar characteristics. Even coins struck in nickel.
That's the problem, as I see it. What I posted isn't a Morgan dollar. Leaving out the context leads people on wild goose chases.
The posting of the non quiz thread was petulant in did absolutely nothing but to solidify the feeling that some members of this forum find your posts condescending and elitist. Perhaps when you post a thread in which you ask for feedback from forum members you could embrace the constructive criticism offered by the minority rather than using the affirmative posts as a cudgel against that minority. Ive tried to explain this to you several times, so let’s try this. When a member asks you to identify the coin in the micrograph, and you think that it is irrelevant, what is the harm in providing the information?
I like to see the guessing for a couple days. I think we all learn something from that. It's not cool to talk down to or insult those that put opinions or possible thoughts on the table.
48 hours is probably the right amount of time for people to post observations and discussions before the answer is revealed. The signal-to-noise ratio tends to suffer once threads last longer than that and get derailed or hijacked.
I took a shot. I'll guess a Barber dime then. ANYWAY, my point is that the ONLY relevant characteristic in the image you posted are the rim breaks and no one needed to see the entire coin!
Lehigh96, suggested: "When a member asks you to identify the coin in the micrograph, and you think that it is irrelevant, what is the harm in providing the information? None at all. Apparently you didn't comprehend what I wrote above or better yet, our posts just crossed and you didn't see my reply: Insider, posted: "...I will take your suggestion and put as much info about the coin as I know..."
One problem is the "experts" here usually know the answer in a few seconds. It takes time to do a quiz to have it blow up by the second post. Thankfully, the experts have been great sports and have let it run a while.