I'm considering of purchasing an 1804 cent off ebay need your help as to authenticit

I am considering purchasing an 1804 cent off ebay, but I'm hesitant. On this coin. The 4 looks all wrong, as if it is altered, below are the photos. What do you think? Thank you so much.

 

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It is obviously an alter date...that's why in the title of the ad it says "1804 tooled/altered date" and in the ad says " Obviously not a genuine 1804."

I can't tell what date it was originally in the photos because they are so bad, but I would not touch this coin.

 

You said: "I have read the definitive illustrated 1976 edition of "the standard catalog of counterfeit and altered coins" it features a length section on your coin, ... Also I have 2 counterfeits, and 6 colonials."

So, shouldn't you know a fake when you see one?

 

I was just wondering if there was a chance that it was not altered. Thanks so much.

 

No, zero chance. Plus, this coin typically exhibits a broken die along the rim from about 12:30 to 2:00 on authentic examples...not always, but it is considered normal.

 

Well well well, turns out Isaiah is actually Steve Wonder.

 

Here we go again.

 

what do you mean?

 

Oh, I don't know. Will this be anything like the 1914-D Lincoln Cent? Or the "Authentic" Racketeer Nickel?

 

I may or may not bid.

 

Or his Chinese Trade Dollar.

 

That was a great deal though. it's an EF, got it for $7. The red book values it at $500, therefore it was an excellent purchase.

 

Well, Red Book prices are not something you should really use. Heritage auction prices are a much more realistic and up to date source for coin values. However, both sources do assume that the coin is authentic. For cheap Chinese counterfeits, those prices don't apply.

 

I would venture to say that it is an 1807 altered to appear as an 1804!


Frank

 

How about this, I'll send it to SGS in a few weeks. And I'll get back to you on if they certify it or not, and what grade they give it.

 

I agree, 1807 looks like it's a good bet...the pics aren't the best, but that's probably it.

 

Go for it. They probably will slab it.

 

i woud pass

 

will you update your avatar too??
representin

 

Yes.