A 1938 d niclkle sintherd planchet please grade only MS conditions

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  1. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    Here's a 1938 d nickle that is a copper washed coin or sinthered planchet.The color of the coin has a dark grey to it and it looks close to what i posted here as it does in person . By observing the coin you could see some copper close to the rims . I bought this coin about 43 years ago from stacks store in manhattan for about 3 bucks then in UNC condition ,and they had no clue that it was a sintherd planchet. I would like if i could get some opinions on this coins grade ( MS grade only since it;s an UNC coin.)
    Thanks Jazzcoin Joe
     

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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    It looks as tho there is a ding or something above the second T of Trust..

    So, I'd go MS-60.
     
  4. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I am not sure just what you mean "copper washed", but I would be virtually certain that it is not a sintered planchet. The mint does not have the equipment to handle sintered metals. As for the copper color, the nickel is 3/4 copper to begin with All it would take is a small piece not to get properly mixed and you could see the copper.

    Grade, maybe a 62.
     
  5. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    If by "sinthered" you mean sintered, then it makes no sense in making coins. Sintering is a process whereby a powdered metal is pressed into a desired shape and then heated in a high temperature oven. This bonds the metal particles together forming a solid piece. No coin was ever made by that process.
     
  6. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    DEFINETION FOR SINTERED PLANCHET

    These planchets were kept to long in the annealing drum. While in the drum they became coated with a layer of metal dust which the heat then sintered onto the planchet these are known with partial ,single- sided ,and double sided sintering also copper washed

    DEFINITION FOR COPPER WASHED

    These planchets receive a thin chemical coating usually of copper color while going through the washed cycle prior to striking see sintered

    Jazzcoins Joe
     
  7. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Hello Jazzcoins Joe,

    IMO the nickel is not such a wrong color that it would get a premium for sintered planchet or copper wash error type. In the photo it looks only slightly the wrong color. I may have time to stop at the bank & get some sintered planchet nickel & quarter errors to post some sample photos tonight.

    Very best regards,
    collect89
     
  8. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    Here's a 39 my 1938d nickle. the 39 looks quite different in shade then my coin
    Jazzcoins Joe
     

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  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I would agree, that is not a sintered/copper wash coin.
     
  10. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    Well how do you account for the odd color it's not a normal color as most jefferson nickles are that are not copper washed. I don't know if you see the signs of copper below the rims of the coin on the obverse and reverse that's an indication of a copper washed planchet.
    Jazzcoins Joe
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I see the copperish coloring Joe, but that is easily accounted for by toning or staining. For example, take a look at this one - HERE - that is not a sintered planchet coin either.

    HERE - is another.

    Now if you go to this thread - HERE - you will see what a real sintered/copper wash coin looks like.
     
  12. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    I Know the difference between toning and staining and what copper looks like not to be rude. I'm not saying this is a sintered planchet i'm saying it's copper washed .

    When after they press the blank planchets they go into a cleaning bin and some of the nickle planchets happened to go were the cent planchets are ,and they are bathed and cleaned in a special chemical, and the copper from the cent planchets will adhere on the nickle planchets which is called a copper washed coin
    Jazzcoins joe
     
  13. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    I personally think that coin was minted on a copper planchet the last coin wrong stock
    jazzcoins Joe
     
  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    No disrespect intended Joe, but copper washed and sintered are the same thing.

    Take a look at this quarter Joe - http://www.cointalk.com/forum/t14477/ - even Mike Diamond says it's not copper wash.
     
  15. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    No that's not a copper washed coin that looks more toned mine don't look like that. there is copper on my coin GD
    Thanks Jazzcoins Joe
     
  16. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    Probably discoloring from cigarette smoke!


    Frank
     
  17. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    I don't think so that's way out of line.
    Jazzcoins Joe
     
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