Funny - When I'm NOT looking for a Doubled Die...

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by JeffC, Sep 3, 2020.

  1. JeffC

    JeffC Go explore something and think a happy thought!

    Hi everyone! I bought this commemorative 2019 China 5-Yuan coin (the first in a series about their World Heritage sites).

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    The reason for my purchase was to check out the security features that I had read in NUMISTA and elsewhere, namely, the “micro dots” (to the left and right of the farmer on the reverse).

    But while taking a magnified photo to check out those dots, I noticed what looks like a Doubled Die Reverse! After searching so many LMCs and being disappointed by so many close-calls, have I finally found a true doubled die? And I wasn’t even looking for it. Look at the peaks and left sides of the hills above the farmer. What do you guys think? Web photos of this coin do not show the double outlines.


    Here’s a close-up of the area.
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    And here’s another photo of the coin without magnification. You can already see doubling (with just the naked eye) in most of the outlines of the hills.

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    So… Have I finally found one?! Is this a doubled die reverse? But to possibly burst my own bubble, if this is a DDR, why are the characters on the bottom normal? I recall a question from a member here asking why we seldom see doubling on Lincoln’s bust, but only on the Year, or on the word “LIBERTY,” or on the Motto. The senior members here explained that the effects of the rotation are less pronounced at the center of the coin and becomes more distinct as we traverse radially outwards – which makes sense. But this coin appears to exhibit the reverse situation. The doubling is quite visible around the center, with no traces near the rim. Why? Unless this never was a DDR in the first place?

    Looking forward to reading your explanations. And, as always, thanks for the education.

    (I still have questions about the security features (my initial reason for getting this coin) but I’ll make a separate post this weekend about them.)
     
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  3. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    Are you sure that doubling appearance isn't a design element of that coin?

    Z
     
  4. JeffC

    JeffC Go explore something and think a happy thought!

    I did consider that. But hi-res web photos that I checked don't show the doubling.
     
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  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I don't know about the supposed doubling, but I really like that design.
     
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  6. JeffC

    JeffC Go explore something and think a happy thought!

    Thanks, me too. It celebrates Tai Shan mountain, one of their World Heritage sites. There's also a "T" and an "S" stamped onto the hills if you look closely.
     
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  7. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    For one, I think that example has a simply exquisite strike.

    Z
     
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  8. JeffC

    JeffC Go explore something and think a happy thought!

    Thanks. Too bad I couldn't get any expert opinion on whether it's true doubling or not. Oh well.... still a keeper.
     
  9. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    Not an expert, but looks like doubling to me.
     
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  10. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    Not sure about the doubling but there are several security (anti-counterfeiting) marks on the coins and 2 varieties
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  11. JeffC

    JeffC Go explore something and think a happy thought!

    Those were actually my original reason for getting this coin. I wanted to know how they do the dots and also question the practicality of security features that are not easily visible to the naked eye. What good are they then? But I'll start a separate thread this weekend.
     
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