Carthage Pile On Thread...

No worries. Yes, MAA stands for that book title. It's in French, but I use Google Translate to turn it into English so I can read it.

It looks like f = #6, though it mentions "some pellet on leaf" I can only assume means the grain ears on Tanit's wreath, which I don't see even on their example. So I think, yes, that's pretty close, as close as we can get comparing MAA to Jenkins-Lewis.

 

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There was a post a while back about your dream coin. This one is mine. No wonder the Carthaginians pockets sagged.
Nice coin!

 

Thank you. I read some history of Hannibal AFTER his defeat at Zama and the loss of the 2nd Punic War (If Carthage won, would that had been the 2nd ROMAN War?) Hannibal was summoned back to Carthage to fix the financial mess that the Barcids created with Roman Indemnities and disorganization as a result. This is a coin probably used to help pay indemnities or that was a substitute for large transactions since all the Silver was going to Rome.

I thought it was a very cool coin. Then I began to really notice the very gorgeous 15-Shekel Coin that @TIF had... VERY COOL. Although mine is not the purdiest, HAVING mine is a great feeling actually holding the History that Hannibal wrought. In fact, it is a more unique History as it it not when he was fighting the War, but AFTER the War when reality strikes a person...

I like its contrast with my smallest coin. The THICKNESS of my 15-Shekels is almost twice the WIDTH of that Tetartemorion!

Kinda reminds me of when they compare Earth to Jupiter.


Carthage
AE 15-Shekel
45mm dia, 7.5mm thick, 102.6g
vs Ionia AR Tetartemorion
4mm, 0.13g
diameter 11 to 1
Weight 789 to 1

 

I have one Carthaginian coin that I bought from an older gentleman from my first coin show when I was about 13 or 14 probably. Along with a Roman coin, this coin was my first ancient piece. The guy, from what I can remember, told me that the coin was issued leading up to or during the Second Punic War and that seems to match up with the dates I found. I don't know much about Carthage coins but this type with the horse right, head turned back left seems to be fairly uncommon with only one example so far posted in this thread. The staff is hard to see in the photo (and in person) but it does appear to be there right at the mound of the rear. Possibly the remnants of a Carthage script character under the horse's belly but not sure.

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These are really fun and interesting coins; a greta departure from their usual.

Zeugitania, Carthage, 175-150 BC
BL Trishekel, Utica Mint
Obverse: Jugate and laureate heads of the Dioscuri right; each surmounted by star.
Reverse: Two horses advancing right. [Punic legend] above.
References: SNG COP 428, Müller 341, MAA 109
Size: 28mm, 12.0g
Notes: The billon of this issue has extremely low silver content, such that nearly all examples appear to be bronze.

 

My big coin that I alluded to finally came on Friday. I have @Alegandron & @TIF to thank for making me all kinds of jealous and butterfly-stomached when they share their 15-shekel. Mine is not the biggest of the bunch, but I can say that I'm a "member" of that bunch: the 15-Shekel Owners Club.

My new one suffers from the typical weak strike (common for these VERY thick coins not to take well to the die impression) especially on the obverse, and is worn and has some mild corrosion in some places (Tanit's chin & cheek). The weak strike makes it very allusive to photograph well as you really need the reflection of light to make out Tanit's soft-featured mug. I tried my best.


Zeugitania, Carthage, Circa 201-175 BC
AE 15-Shekel, Carthage Mint
Obverse: Wreathed head of Tanit left.
Reverse: Horse standing right; uraeus above.
References: MAA 104, SNG Cop 400
Size: 44mm, 6.5mm thick, 86.4g
Notes: Very rare. The largest Carthaginian bronze issue and likely one of the largest struck coins in antiquity.

 

Awesome job capturing this cool coin! Congrats!

 

Ok ill play.

Sorry just to lazy to go take pictures of the ones I dont have pics of already.


Carthago Nova
Iberia, c. 237 - 206 B.C.
Spain, Carthago Nova Æ Unit.
Roman Occupation after 209 BC.
Bare-head left
(Scipio Africanus?)
Horse standing right; palm tree
behind. CNH Class XI, 282;
SNG BM Spain 127-128; ACIP 609.
10.30g, 23mm,
Ex Javier Paris Collection.
Roma Numismatics auction E-61



BC. Obv: Bare-head left
Scipio Africanus
Rev: Horse standing right;
palm tree behind.
CNH Class XI, 282;
SNG BM Spain 127-128; ACIP 609.
11.2 grams, 23mm,
Villaronga pg. 72, 69;
Burgos 425.



Carthago Nova,
Ancient Spain, 235-220 BC
Barcids, AR 1/4 shekel
Obv: bust of youthful Herakles
or Hannibal with club left.
Rev: Elephant walking right.
Sear 6566; Burgos 374;
Robinson 6c, 6d: Muller 17-18
*Burgos 487, 1.76 grams
Ibercoin – Online Numismatic
Auction 29 Lot 118, year 2019


Carthago Nova ,
209 - 205 B.C.
Ancient Spain, Æ Unit.
Roman Occupation after 209
BC. Obv: Bare-head left
Scipio Africanus
Rev: Horse standing right;
palm tree behind.
CNH Class XI, 282;
SNG BM Spain 127-128; ACIP 609.
11.2 grams, 23mm,
Villaronga pg. 72, 69;
Burgos 425.



Carthaginian 237-209 BC
Barcids In Spain
PHOENICIAN AND PUNIC
Obv: Helmeted head of Athena
left, Phoenician letter
'yod' below.
Rev: Horse standing right,
Phoenician letter 'beth'
below. AE, Unit. 7.26 grams
CNH pg. 70, 54. Burgos 528

Carthaginian 237-209 BC
Barcids In Spain
PHOENICIAN AND PUNIC
Obv: Wreathed head of
Tanit left
Rev: Horse’s head right,
Phoenician letter'aleph'
below chin.
AE, Unit. 9.69 grams
Reference CNH pg. 69, 45
Burgos 515

 

I just had to get one of my own! It arrived today.

 

You can never have too many of these lil' MAA 15 types (I only have 5 now... I don't think it's quite a problem yet ). When I nice one pops it's head out, I can't help but bid. This one I honestly thought (and I was hoping, but I hope you can see what I thought I saw) had some Punic letters behind the horse on reverse (it would've been unique and nothing I'd seen before for this type). But upon delivery and examining it in hand it was environmental adhesions ("Say it ain't so!). I performed a little numismatic "tumor" removal on obverse and reverse and its looking mighty fine now.

Before (Seller's photos)

After

 

I don't think we have seen a coin of Tiberius on this thread yet...


Tiberius, AE23 As of Carthage, Zeugitana. AD 4-14, struck AD 10. 8.42 g. TI CA F IMP V clockwise from lower right, bare head right. / P I SP D V SP IIVIR C I C around PP-DD in two lines.

 

A new bargain arrival...


Carthage Zeugitania (264-241 BC) Ae; Sardinian mint
Obv: Wreathed head of Tanit left
Rev: Horse standing right, Punic "D" below
21mm, 6.2gms

 

Carthage Billon Tridrachm 205-200 BC Sear 6497 Obv Head of Tanit Rv. Horse standing right head reverted. 8.93 grms 24 mm Photo by W. Hansen. What is interesting about this particular issue is that it appears to have a slightly higher silver content than the preceding issues.(though lighter by something like 2 grams) I am not certain what this might represent.