Strange UFO coin from 1680 puzzles the experts

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  1. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    Well I though this would be an interesting topic and different. Here are serveral UFO coins which puzzle the experts. The first coin is a mysteries coin dating from 1680 which puzzles the experts.The coin apears to show a UFO then a symbolic representation of the Bibical Ezekiel's Wheel. One or the other but little less(according to Kenneth Breset former president of the American numismatic association) It really does look like an awful lot like a modern representation of a UFO,but of course it's just present day bias to think that because it looks like a UFO to us, that's what the coin maker intended it to be. However,I'm sure many are going to seize on this as evidence of the exsistence of seventeeth century UFO's.

    The second coin is another example and the third .

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  3. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    Very interesting. Thanks for showing the pictures.
     
  4. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    I disagree. The Wheel shown on the first and third coins look more like tops. I suppose if you were using Close Encounters as the archetype of a ufo then it sort of resembles them...

    Could you give a reference or more detailed description for the second coin?
     
  5. rdo

    rdo Senior Member

    FTR, Ezekial's Wheel is a wheel bisected by a wheel.
    Although a crude drawing, this represents the wheel from his vision.
     

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  6. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    UFO's

    Nice post!
    but if you look back in history we have drawn on caves, coin and also some have painted in painting.
    Are the UFO's real or ingrained in our DNA?
     
  7. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    Your not interpreting the picture of the first coin look at it closer it does'nt look like a top why would anybody ,bother putting a top on a coin there is no significance to that and no logic and no meaning to that. The coin maker was trying to say some thing here. You can;t have a close mind when you look at these coins. The second coin is a Bibical coin which the information on that coin was interpreted as a UFO. in Bibical form that is.

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  8. rdo

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  9. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    I don't think its a top at all. Its definitely Ezekiel's Wheel. Which I feel was probably a UFO. I just don't feel these are quite the way we imagine UFO's today.

    As for the second "biblical" coin, I seriously doubt it is in any way related to the Wheel or UFO's at all. If you don't have a reference or more data on it, I'll figure it out.
     
  10. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Found the "biblical" coin. Its a dishekel of Byblos, minted under King Azbaal. It shows a galley (as I expected) with warriors above a hippocamp, symbol of Melqart. Galleys are very common on coins of this region and represent naval power. Absolutely no relations to the Wheel or UFO's.
     
  11. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    Well I must have posted the wrong coin on the site there were three different ones sorry about that. I forgot the site i went too OH well i'll look it up again and post some more UFO coins. Here;s the reverse of the UFO coin



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  12. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    I was looking at the third coin - the style seemed very odd. Then I realized, its not aligned correctly. The rosette should be the top of the design. When its aligned like that, it looks much more like a shield being held to block a volley of arrows. Much less like a UFO.
     

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  13. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    Thanks for the input guys I will post more of these
    Jazzcois Joe
     
  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    if you do a search of the forums you will find very detailed an in depth discussions about these coins. But you're gonna have to go back a few years and look for posts made by Ian.
     
  15. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    spill the beans GD spill the beans you were there when all of these coins were made :D
     
  16. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    Here's another coin a alien quarter with UFO"S on them that was found near a crashed Ufo,site
    Jazzcoins Joe
     

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  17. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    not coins but I found these interesting when looking it up.

    part of a painting "The Crucifixion" by an unknown artist in 1350,
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    and this from abydos
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  18. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    That's definitely not a Billzach coin.....
     
  19. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Randy, when I started reading this thread, it was just that paticular picture that I was thinking about. Some sort of tapestry done, if memory serves, (don't hold me to it) in one of the Balkin countries?
     
  20. Jesh

    Jesh New Member

    This is a French jeton minted in 1680, a coin-like educational tool that was commonly used to help people count money, or sometimes used as a money substitute for playing games. It is about the size of a U.S. quarter-dollar and similar to thousands of other jetons with different religious and educational designs that were produced and used in Europe during the 16th and 17th centuries. It appears to commemorate a UFO sighting of a wheel like object. Some researchers feel it represents the Biblical Ezekiel's wheel. The Latin inscription 'OPPORTUNUS ADEST' translates as 'It is here at an opportune time".

    Taken from Hurley's page, which is very interesting to believers and non-believers alike. Being someone who has studied astronomy, I am a 'believer' due to the fact that, well, it's an awful waste of space... billions of galaxies, billions of stars in each = a number we can't begin to comprehend. On top of that, a majority of the galaxies have a 10 billion year head start on us.... anyhow, it's not a philosophy forum. Regardless, the coin is interesting.
     
  21. Jesh

    Jesh New Member

    Much more at Hurley's ufoartwork in history page... http://www.ufoartwork.com/

    you will see major similiarities from BC to AD.
     
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