Carthage Pile On Thread...

Very nice example of that last serrated series.

 

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Here is another SALVIS AVGG ET CAESS FEL KART, just arrived from CNG. Interesting colors and patination on this one.



Galerius. As Caesar. Circa 299-303 CE. AE Follis. 28.5mm, 10.51g. Carthage mint, fourth officina. Obverse: MAXIMIANVS NOB CAES, laureate head right. Reverse: Laureate head of Galerius right. Reverse: SALVIS AVGG ET CAESS FEL KART. Personification of Carthage holding fruits in both hands. Δ in exergue. RIC VI Carthage 32b. Partial silvering toned gold. Green and brown patina. Ex Phil Peck (Morris) Collection.

I really like this type, especially Carthage's dates and grapes and whatnot. I also like long and elaborate legends. Any Latin scholars want to share their preferred translation of the reverse? Some I have seen online include:

• "With the Emperor and Caesars being safe, happy Carthage is strengthened."
• "With two healthy augusti and two healthy caesars, Carthage is blessed."
• "Blessed Carthage, for the salvation of the augusti and caesars."

I don't think a perfect translation is possible because both salus and felix can have a lot of different meanings. But in these times of pandemic, and having a family of four myself, I like "Carthage is lucky to have two healthy augusti and two healthy caesars!"

 

These coins celebrate the defeat of the Quinquegentiani (People of the Five Tribes), who were a confederation of Berbers in North Africa. They were under Roman rule, but rebelled in A.D. 289 and were successful for a few years until Maximianus Herculius launched a series of devastating attacks starting in A.D. 297 and finishing in A.D. 298, after which, the Quinquegentiani were never heard of again.





Diocletian
A.D. 298-303
27x29mm 9.3g
IMP DIOCLETIANVS P F AVG; Laureate head right.
SALVIS AVGG ET CAESS FEL KART; Carthage standing facing, head left, holding fruits in both hands.
In ex. A
RIC VI Carthage 27a/31a




Constantius I
A.D. 298
26x28mm 8.4g
CONSTANTIVS NOB CAES; laureate head right.
FELIX ADVENT AVGG NN; Africa standing in long drapery with elephant-skin head-dress, right holding standard, left tusk, lion with captured bull at feet, H in left field.
In ex PKΓ
RIC VI Carthage 26a

 

I wanted to fix my error it's Carthage 29a/31a that are almost impossible to tell apart and to introduce my new page on Carthage

http://www.constantinethegreatcoins.com/Carthage/

 

Won this one this morning from Roma, which I'm just ecstatic about!



North Africa, Carthage. Second Punic War BI 1½ Shekels. Circa 203-201 BC. Wreathed head of Tanit left / Horse standing right, head left, with leg raised. MAA 81; SNG Copenhagen 390-3. 9.18g, 25mm, 12h.

 

Actually the Japanese do NOT have Rodan as a nemesis, it was CARTHAGE:


Bruttium Carthage occupation Hannibal Italy 215-205 BC 2nd Punic War AE 19 Tanit Horse Hd RARE


Oh yeah, I have an AE from Carthage that inspired a... Japanese film ...

 

I got this lil guy delivered the other day. It's a pretty common MAA 15 type, but it's better quality than the usual, especially the very dynamic free horse on reverse.

 

Yeah, that Horse looks like it is ready to leap off that coin! Great capture!

 

Awesome little coin.. almost looks like the horse is springing off the ground.
Pretty cool!

 

I realized I didn't have a Severus II and bought this example

 

That is a stunner! wow - thanks for posting!

 

Question @Victor_Clark ..

Maximianus or Galerius?
I am not sure...

 

I have a face mask so I can pretend to be Victor. It's Maximian.

I have grosser fruits than you...

 

Exactly my thoughts at the time of purchase... but...a very respected member (@Valentinian ) suggested perhaps it was Galerius.... my idea was certainly not to catch anyone out.. but to understand why this could possibly be Galerius. The explanation was around the nose of the bust - which seems perhaps ever so slightly different from your example.. but really a minimal difference if we are talking about various die engravers.... and many more I have viewed are all over the map... so I am quite confused on this issue.

 

It's Galerius. You can tell by comparing busts. Below are two from Group 1

first Maximianus- notice his beard and jowls and line at the bottom of his beard-



next Galerius, no jowls, beard only on chin and no line at bottom of beard.




this may not always be so easy to tell though

 

Here is my earliest London mint coin of Severus II as Caesar of the west:


RIC VI, Londinium, No. 59a - Severus as Caesar of the west (earliest titulature):

SEVERVS NOBILISSIMVS CAES ........................... GENIO POPV -- LI ROMANI

 

And here is a London mint Severus II as Augustus of the west follis:


Rated RRR (to me that equates to very, very, hard to come by) in Cloke and Toone. Hugh Cloke owns it now - I wish I had It back!

 

You have to be careful when attributing Galerius as Augustus of the East coins:


RIC VI, London, follis, No. 42, Galerius Maximian, Augustus of the East

Obv: IMP C MAXIMIANVS PF AVG
Rev: GENIO POPV -- LI ROMANI

Note: Identical obverse inscription to the primary one of Maximian Herculius. In this instance the portrait alone identifies it as Galerius.

 

Ah! I didn't realize this issue lasted so long. Victor is of course quite right.

It looks like the field marks and officinae can help too, at least if RIC is accurate.

For the legend IMP MAXIMIANVS P F AVG:
B in ex, no I in field (like mine): always Maximian
H in left field, B in ex: Maximian c. 303 (RIC 33b)
I in left field, B in ex (like yours): Galerius c. 305-6 (RIC 39b)
I in left field, A in ex: Galerius c. 306 (RIC 43a)
H in left field, A or Γ in ex: Maximian restored c. 306 (RIC 50)

If that's right, it makes things a bit easier: if there's either nothing or an H in the field, it's Maximian. With an I in the field, it's Galerius.