A large die break on the back of a 2008 Rosevelt dime

Well it's just common sence to me a ,die chip is smaller in nature i would think then a die break ,just makes a lot of sence if you want to put it in perspective. What would you classify a die gouge ,just curious.Have a good day Bill

Jazzcoins Joe

 

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No, it's not common sense and there is disagreement as to the terminology used. Ken and i respectfully disagree at this point but I am in the company of many other well known numismatists that do agree with my use of terminology.

Blobs are chips, cracks look like cracks with jagged lines involved. Die breaks are more catastrophic die failures that results in larger jagged raised lines on the surface of a struck coin.

I answered the gouge question a few posts up.

Thanks,
Bill

 

A die chip;



A die break;

 

Hi, Does Jazz know the address of the breaks and cuds guy? Could you send it to me. Thanks, Okeefe

 

"Die break" is a non-specific term denoting any type of brittle fracture that leaves a void in the die face. A cud is a die break. A die chip is a die break. The 2008 Roosevelt dime has a die chip. A very large die chip is called an "interior die break" or an "internal die break".

 

Thanks mike for the info so what I'm understanding here ,a large die chip is considered a interior die break so this is a interior die break because it;s large considering the Rosevelt dime is a small coin . I would think if this was on a peace dollar it would be a die chip .
Jazzcoins Joe

 

Distinguishing between a die chip and an interior die break is a subjective decision. No firm rubicon has been established. For me the threshold is an area of about 4 square millimeters. Your defect falls well below that. However, other folks may have a different threshold and that's fine.

 

Thanks Mike for that info again, I understand the concept now.
Jazzcoins Joe and
to you Mike

 

Rockdude, your second picture is in error, that is NOT a die break, that is a die crack. Actually two die cracks, one from the rim through the tops of UNIT, and the other from the bottom of the O through the star to the first crack. It will not be a die break until a piece of the die breaks away. If the piece doesn't fall away completely you could have a retained cud diebreak, and if it does fall away completely then you will have a full cud diebreak.

 

I knew that, I was just checking to see if you knew it.
Not really, Thanks for the clarification.