What grade would you grade this Barber ? http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=1118&Lot_No=758#photo rzage
I would love to buy that coin for AU55 price, although a AU58 recently sold or $12,650.00 which is ridiculous price unless the new owner think it was way undergraded
It's a beatiful coin but isn't that luster breaks on her cheek , thus wear . I didn't know if I was right or wrong . rzage
AU-55 or somewhere around there, but definitely not an MS 64. Listen to your intuition, not corporation plastic.
Doug you think they bumped it just because Barber 1/2 s are so tough , and it's otherwise a beautiful coin , or both . rzage
I'll go the other way and say at least 63 if not 64. The coin is not flat to the lens in the image. The same grey look is also seen on the right side of the obverse. It's a good image but not a great image in my opinion. A little shift in lighting and all the grey would go away but the focus would still be off on the right side of the coin. It's an image and the auction house is not famous for quality in this area. Just my opinion.
Even if it was correctly graded , it would still price like a higher graded coin though , or not ? Rusty
I say 62/63 I was going to tell you my opinion of the photo was an AU58. The up-close photo makes the cheek look like it has wear & rub beyond the threshold of calling it UNC. However, looking at the slab photo, it looks like the cheek is NOT thumbed or circulated. It looks more like contact marks (not circulation). TPGs are usually VERY critical on any marks on Barber cheeks. I say 62/63. 62 is because of the contact marks on the cheek. It could go 63 because of superior eye appeal (and my personal favorite album toning). 64 is unfair to so many other Barbers graded by NGC & PCGS. GDJMSP- Can you explain a little about bumping it up because of the rarity of the coin?
I agree, what appears as wear is probably a lighting issue. I won't go so far as to say it should be in an MS64 holder; I would like to see that baby in an MS63 holder.
Sure, let me show what they (PCGS) thinks AU58 looks like for better date Barber halves. That should make it easy to understand how this coin got a 64. Each pic can be examined with blowups if you click on the link under each. LINK 1 LINK 2 LINK 3 LINK 4 Now looking at those pics what do you think ? My understanding of AU58 is that the coin can only have the slightest wear or rub on the highest points. Do any of those coins seem to meet that criteria ?
Now here are some more common date Barber halves, again graded by PCGS as MS64. See any difference beyween them and the original coin in this thread? LINK 1 LINK 2 LINK 3
Wow they really bump up the rare dates , I thought a little but I guess any EF-40 if it's rare enough can get an AU , Is this just for Barbers ? I imagine not . rzage
I can't say I agree with the 64 grade, but AU 55 seems a bit harsh, even for scrooge. DISCLAIMER: Making grade guesses, particularly on AU/MS coins, is very difficult at best from photographs.
p.s. I would grade it 62 or 63 from the photos -- no way PCGS grade a coin with that much unbroken luster in the fields AU. No way.
OK I really want this junk, garbage, scum, crap stopped. AU goes up to 59, I really think these "conceptual grades" need to crawl in to a ditch and die an oh-so-slow painful death. please stop using them everyone.