no-star dime, difficult decision

You got me there , as I haven't seen the coin in hand .
rzage:whistle:

 

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I guess half of it is knowing which coins can benifit , I know the darker the toning the deeper it is , thus they probably wouldn't touch a black toned coin . JMO
rzage

 

I don't know. I have seen pictures of coins on the NCS website that had horrible dark toning and they conserved them just fine. They will conserve a damaged coin, but it will end up in an NCS slab. My understanding is, you want to use them with coins that have toning that hurts eye appeal before the coin is submitted to NGC. That way, the toning is cleaned up and the coin in is then submitted to NGC and can possibly grade higher because of the increased eye appeal.

 

I never would have guessed that they are the same coin. But now, if you look back and forth at each coin you can see a spot on the shinbone on both coins. Who'd a thunk it?

Bruce

 

:vanish:

(I've always wanted to use that one.)

 

I guess I was too cryptic with my original reply. Yes - I understand that coins can be cleaned and graded. It is obvious just like you stated. Now "Properly" is the subjective piece of the puzzle(thus cracking the guarded secret). For example they might let something slide for bust halves or bust dollars that they will not let slide for morgans. That is the whole reason of the smiley face. I have seen harshly cleaned coins graded and part of it makes me think - who did the cleaning and who did the submitting to which tpg(NCS or NGC). It is all a part of the great mystery(or guarded secret). Because IN MY OPINION only(without proof of course) that depending on who the submitter is some coins will grade for one person and not for another. The reiver collection is one example. I would love to have this coin to crack out and submit to PCGS just to see what would happen.

 

Conserving that Eliasberg dime was an act of numismatic treason. Of course, you have been punished as you have also significantly devalued it.

 

I suspect the folks on this thread will weigh in slightly differently:

http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=26&threadid=691585

Again, while I completely respect the right of the current owner of the coin to do with it as they please, this is sad to me.

This will be my last post on this thread as I don't want to beat a dead horse (even more).

 

Yes - that is true. Not sure if it is jealousy on my part or not - since I am not a famous collector.

 

Morgans are their own little beasts.. if I recall correctly, the vast majority of the Mint State ones out there came from the depths of the treasury in recent times. I have a decent number of GSA dollars, none of them show any toning (OK, one has a little on the rim) and these guys are just blast white, fresh as the day they were thrown in the bags.

 

From the get go, let me say that this is just my opinion, (and we all know about opinions) IF the original non conserved Eliasberg coin came that way from his collection, then I would have been very hesitant about changing it. Isn't the Eliasberg collection considered almost legendary. Now you have a coin from the Eliasberg collection which has been changed. IMO, not good.

 

OK, this is probably a really stupid question...but I'll ask it anyway (I'm not shy ).

On the slab, it lists the term "Eliasberg." I assume this is the name of someone who had a famous collection that was auctioned off, is that the case? I have heard of an Eliasberg Specimen 1913 Liberty Head Nickel, I assume this is the same person?

 

Richie, You are correct -- one and the same. Here's some background:

http://www.pcgs.com/articles/article3829.chtml

 

OK, I believe I have read about him before but I didn't connect the name to the person. Thanks!