1893 Isabella Quarter Dollar On eBay, Need your help as to authentication.

I found the following on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1893-Isabella-Commemorative-Quarter-Columbian-Expo_W0QQitemZ320321243293QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item320321243293&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A15|39%3A1|240%3A1318

I've been looking to purchase one of these for a while now, and I saw this coin. Something scares me about the way that this is marketed, such as the following phrases,

"This is an estate find. I cannot authenticate this coin. I local coin dealer said, to authenticate this coin would cost $80.00. You make the decision by the picture, weight and diameter along with the website information. Your guess is as good as mine.
This is most likely a Reproduction, Conterfeit or Immatation.
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There is no return on this item."

something about this coin scares me, but I'm tempted to bid. PLEASE HELP. I'd love your unbiased opinion. Thank You So Much In Advance.

 

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You wouldn't get past my spam filter with this message...

Ruben

 

I just tried to get the message across easily. So you can't view this? If so, here it is again, image free.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1893-Isabella-Commemorative-Quarter-Columbian-Expo_W0QQitemZ320321243293QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins _US_Individual?hash=item320321243293&_trksid=p3286 .c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A15|39%3A1|240%3A1318

thanks.

 

There is no way to authenticate that from that photo.

How about this photo

http://www.coinfacts.com/commemoratives/quarter_dollar_commems/isabella_quarter_dollar.htm



Ruben

 

you can't touch this coin without a guarantee of a return, IMO...

Ruben

 

Check out the other coins the seller is selling.

 

What I see is a skinny rim with weak denticles. That says counterfeit all the way! :hammer:

Looks like a coin for Hobo! :thumb:

Ribbit

 

I don't see it as thin but there is no way I'd buy it with those photo's.

Ruben

 

Compare the rims & denticles to the pic you posted from CoinFacts! :kewl: It's easy to see the rims are too skinny and the denticles are too weak.

Ribbit

 

If you want an authentic Isabella at reasonable price, try bidding on this one in the Heritage auction. My guess is that it will sell between $300-$400.

http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=1118&Lot_No=9829#photo

 

Oh the RIMS. I was thinking the rim. You mean the Rim on the face!


Probably...yes. But who can really tell with those photo's.

Ruben

 

I was referring to the rim on the outer edge of the coin.

Ribbit

 

they are both on the outer edge of the coin. But you don't mean, if I understand you right, the actual thickness of the coin

Ruben

 

Rim = area from edge of coin to beginning of denticles

As to the thickness of the coin itself, it actually looks too thick. I had a counterfeit Morgan that was that way, so the weight would be closer to what it should be.

Ribbit

 

right - agreed

 

The coin is definitely fake.

 

Details! I hate when you guys do this...

Ruben

 

I find it quite funny that he claims he bought it at an estate and cannot get it authenticated. His user name is "greatreprocoins". I am convinced he knows that the coins are bad.

 

The rims appear quite high to me, the shape of the numerals isnt correct. I would recommend comparing it side by side with a photo of a real one, and take note of the date. To me that is the most obvious discrepancy in the lettering.

 

Thank you master Yoda. Are you coming to town in January?


Ruben