"May I Join the Julius Caesar Portrait Club"?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Mat, Jul 23, 2020.

  1. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    For over a year now I have been putting some money aside to acquire a portrait coin of Julius Caesar & today I am happy to say my purchase of one finally arrived in the mail.

    It was purchased from a well known Vcoins dealer & I am really excited to finally Join the "Julius Caesar Portrait Club".

    The new coin is below as well as an updated 12 Caesars tray.

    [​IMG]Julius Caesar (February-March 44 B.C)
    AR Denarius
    O: Wreathed head of Caesar right; CAESAR downward to right, DICT PERPETVO upward to left.
    R:Venus Victrix standing left, holding Victory in outstretched right hand and vertical scepter in left; L • BVC[A] downwards to right. L. Aemilius Buca, moneyer.
    Rome Mint
    3.92g
    17mm
    Crawford 480/8; Alföldi Type XIV, 62–3, 67, and 69 (A13/R22); CRI 105; Sydenham 1061; RSC 23; RBW 1683.


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  3. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Well done, and COOL! Last month of his life...

     
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  4. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Congrats!! It's a club I've yet to join :(.
     
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  5. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    Very nice Mat, congratulations - and welcome!

    I was corrected on my own attribution that included “Venus Victrix” being depicted on the reverse. I can not recall who wrote me about that, but it was someone who I respected as a knowledgable person. He/She said it should be “Venus genetrix” the venerated spiritual icon from whom the Julian family claimed descendancy. I did some research and felt that attribution made sense - but I have forgotten what references I used. Anyway, I did change the name of that reverse depiction from “Venus Victrix” to “Venus genetrix”

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    Denarius, Crawford, Roman Republican Coins (RRC), No. 480/8 (March 44 BC - Alfoldi)

    Coin obverse depiction: Julius Caesar wreathed head facing right

    Inscription clockwise from right: [CAESAR DICT] PERPETVo (Dictator in Perpetuity)

    Coins reverse depiction: Personfication of Venus (possibly Venus genetrix?) standing, facing left, holding statuette of victory on palm of right hand and supporting vertical scepter with left hand

    Inscription vertical to right: L BVCA (L. Aemilius Buca, Moneyer)

    Weight: 3.5g

    I would appreciate some input on this - I will readily change my attribution if I can get some authoritative guidance.
     
    Last edited: Jul 24, 2020
  6. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    Congratulations on a serious coup! Between the name and that iconic portrait, yours hits all the bases.
    (...Nearest I ever got to a set was an old postcard from the BM.)
     
  7. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    Wow. Last month. Don't you just need it when there's that amount of documentation for something (/anything) like this?
     
  8. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Here is mine: Last TWO Weeks of his life...

    Hmmm... why I got this Iulius Caesar...

    - minted in last two weeks of his reign, or two weeks before he was assassinated.
    - veiled, as he held the offce of Pontifex Maximus for several years, and that office was very important to him personally.
    - wreathed... just short of being king... big no-no
    - DICT PERPETVO - yeah, he was a king... so Roman Republic inherently and culturally hated kings.
    - fairly difficult to capture with the star on reverse
    - reasonably centered with most/all devices and legends (this is not as important to me cuz its numismatic vs the intrinsic Historical impact.)

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    Roman Imperiatorial
    Julius Caesar Lifetime
    P Sepullius Macer
    AR Denarius, 1st 2 weeks-Mar 44 BCE, 19 mm, 4.03g.
    Obv: CAESAR – DICT PERPETVO Veiled and wreathed head of Caesar R.
    Rev: P·SEPVLLIVS – MACER Venus standing l., holding Victory and sceptre resting on star.
    Ref: Syd 1074a Sear Imperators 107e Crawford 480-14 Rare

    Alföldi arranges Crawford 480 series coins in (44 BC) month order as follows:

    RRC 480/1, Buca - January
    RRC 480/2, DICT QVART - early February
    RRC 480/3/4/5, CAESAR IMP - late February
    RRC 480/6/7/8/9/10/11/12/13/14, DICT PERPETVO - early to mid March
    RRC 480/17/18, CAESAR IMPER - late March
    RRC 480/19/20, PARENS PATRIAE - April
    RRC 480/15/16, MARIDIANVS - April
    RRC 480/21/22, CLEMENTIAE CAESARIS and Mark Antony - April
     
  9. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    Wow. So he just Kept amping up the rhetoric, until the Senatorial class couldn't stand it any more. Interesting .....precedent?
     
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  10. Parthicus

    Parthicus Well-Known Member

    Congratulations @Mat on joining our exclusive club :cigar: Here's my example, acquired a few months ago (and ex @Sallent ):
    Julius Caesar.jpg
     
  11. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    Cool banker's mark! S'pose whoever did that didn't like him very much?
     
  12. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    I forgot to include:

    Provenance: Ex Chris Martin
     
    Last edited: Jul 24, 2020
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  13. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I would like to join that club one day, but so far it has not worked out. I have bid on a couple of problem pieces and did not get them. When dealers I know have had better ones, they have been poorly struck (way off-center) and priced in the mid 4 figures. No thank you.

    Maybe some day. I want one with a portrait and the word "caesar" on it.

    Congratulations on your find!
     
    Last edited: Jul 23, 2020
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  14. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    @Mat that is an excellent membership card. Well done on adding this one. It was a great felling when I landed mine
     
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  15. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Thanks for the comments and sweet coins posted in the thread.
     
  16. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Good one @Mat. Mine is not the greatest so I've been on the look out for one somewhat better that I can afford.
    Julius Caesar 7 a.jpg
    JULIUS CAESAR
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: CAESAR IMP, laureate head right, lituus & simpulum behind.
    REVERSE: M METTIVS, Venus standing left with Victory & scepter, shield resting on globe; control letter G to left
    Rome January-February 44 BC
    3.81g, 18mm
    RSC 34
    ex. Andrew McCabe
    plugged and ex-mount
     
  17. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    You did well Mat - all of these JC portrait coins are treasures - such rare and historical artifacts. Thank you for originating this thread.
     
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  18. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    congrats mat..it is indeed a red letter day when you get one of those/these..(i'm in @TIF's club too :()
     
  19. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    Congrats @Mat - I haven't made it there yet. The new coin looks great and has good company in your 12-caesars tray!
     
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  20. Finn235

    Finn235 Well-Known Member

    Congrats! IMO, the DICT PERPETVO portrait denarius of Caesar is arguably one of the most important coins ever minted - how many other coins can claim to be a major reason behind the assassination that would literally shape the course of European history?

    Mine is one of the uglier coins in my collection, but I still never miss a chance to show it off!
    Julius caesar lifetime denarius macer sear 1414.jpg
     
  21. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    This wasn’t one of the references …………… http://archive1.village.virginia.edu/spw4s/RomanForum/GoogleEarth/AK_GE/AK_HTML/TS-060.html
    ………… but I think it is a pretty good one. Wikepedia has a good entry at “Venus genetrix” but I do not like to use Wikipedia as an authoritative reference.
     
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