1967 with error and spooned

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Carlos Arriaga, Nov 13, 2008.

  1. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    Setting aside the arguement whether or not a person would "spoon" a dime, the end result is the same. Spooning is not a term for an error it is merely a description of how a coin recieved post mint damage, rendering the coin nimismatically worthless. Your coin still shows the results of PMD.

    Richard
     
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  3. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    Actually those rings are not "spooned" but made by another method as is evidenced by the fact that you can still see parts of the coin including the rim.

    Richard
     
  4. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Ever seen baby rings? I have, and I have seen one that was made from a gold dollar.

    No I'm not saying that these dimes were intended to be rings because it is highly unlikely. While I agree these are probably from a dryer, the term "spooned" as I see it is a verb which actually just refers to the widening and/or rounding of the rim by tapping on the edge without regard to the implement used. The word "Spooned" is a holdover from WWII when the creating of rings from the larger silver coins by tapping on the edge with a tablespoon. (I would guess other implements were used as well, but the verbal history mentions spoons and you can't tell from looking at the finished rings what they were tapped with.) So when I see one of these coins described as "spooned" I don't assume that it was actually tapped with a spoon to make a ring, but that the edge has been beaten lightly until it has the appearance of the coins that WERE beaten with spoons to make rings.

    And Jazzcoins, as mentioned earlier those rings are NOT from spooned coins.
     
  5. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    What did I say???...Older silver coins are spooned. they do exist. I never said they didn't.

    What I did say and said in other posts is that your coins are not spooned. They were in a clothes dryer.

    I also know Mike and he would, without a doubt say that that dime is a dryer coin. He's said so about coins like this on other forums.

    As for "baby rings" the diameter of a dime , if it were spooned would be too small for even a babies' finger once it was drilled out.

    Ziggy, the coins that actually are rings that are up there with the details likely were , in fact, spooned. That is one of the results of a well done one.

    They also prove my point. Older silver coins are spooned. You'll never find one made of a dime. The ones above are from quarters.

    In any case. Feel free to send a message to Mike and ask him to post his opinion here. I am certain of what he will say about your coins and the dime that was shown.

    Hi Conder, The problem here is that unless we make a distinction as to what is really "spooned" and what was stuck in a dryer, we are not educating people as to what they truly have.

    Thanks,
    Bill
    PS: there is no guesswork on these. I've seen them firsthand. You can debate it forever and it won't change the facts.
     
  6. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

  7. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    1) copper is softer than nickel.
    2) Nickel, the outer layer of a clad coin is very hard.
    3) The dime....note, it's the edge where the copper is exposed that gets the most deformed.

    4) and the most important factor. The length of time the coin remains stuck in the clothes dryer effects the outcome. The cent was stuck inside longer than the dime was.

    The Cent and the Dime in that thread were both dryer coins. Again, no spooning was involved.

    Thanks,
    Bill
    PS: I'm done with this thread....
     
  8. Theresa Cody

    Theresa Cody New Member


    Hello,

    I am going through some old coins my father collected. I have been taking them to a local antique dealer. I took in one that he said was beaten by a spoon. He said most of the time it was prisoners with nothing else to do that made them that way & he called it spoon jewelry & Offered $1, which I declined. Is there any info to support this? He said they were often made into tiny rings or pendants.

    Theresa
     
  9. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Welcome to CT. You should start your own post as this one is from 2008.

    Tsking coins to an antique dealer is the worst thing you can do. I’m an active antique dealer and a coin collector so I know. The dealer is correct in what he is saying. Not sure if prisoners do this but it is common. If you take a spoon and beat the edge it widens the edge and makes the coin smaller. This technique is known as spooning.

    Probably a video on the Internet about spooning. It destroys the coin and most give up after they have damaged the coin. After the coin was beaten round enough it was drilled out and made into a ring. Lots of time is necessary to complete this process.

    Try taking your coins to a local coin shop as you will have better service than an antique dealer. Beware that not all coin B shops are honest and will offer less than it’s worth. If you post photos, one coin at a time in a thread of both sides, and ask clear questions, you will get honest answers on CT.
     
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