190? First Lincoln, First Error

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Carlos Arriaga, Nov 17, 2008.

  1. Carlos Arriaga

    Carlos Arriaga Senior Member

    By the double Eye lid can be seen there's a DDO. But also the Strike of the reverse "right branch" on the oberse, eliminated half of the cero and the 9.
     

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  3. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    Hi,
    I am sorry to say that there is no die doubling on that coin. What you see in the area of the eye is nothing indicating die doubling.

    The coin itself may have been struck through grease, or if that part of the coin that is missing the numerals is extremely thin, the coin may have been struck on an unevenly rolled planchet.

    Thanks,
    Bill
     
  4. Carlos Arriaga

    Carlos Arriaga Senior Member

    This other picture will help more to see the double Eye. I checked this coin under a microscopy; the right wheat branch was stamped two times on the oberse.
     

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  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    You say that it is a wheatie, then okay I accept it.

    But, that third digit sure doesn't look like a 0.
     
  6. Carlos Arriaga

    Carlos Arriaga Senior Member

    There's another picture with more light, hope that help you to identify the portion of the 0.
     

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  7. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Is there a VDB on the shoulder? I agree it doesn't look much like a 0. If it doesn't have the VDB then it could be an 09, because the third digit definitely isn't a 1.
     
  8. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Great point, and one that I forgot to ask.
     
  9. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    Anyone familiar with the hubs used during the various periods of production of Lincoln cents could tell you that the head is too big for the coin to have been struck in 1909.

    And...based upon the die crack across the the head of Lincoln, a very common occurrence in the mid nineteen fifties I know that this coin was struck somewhere between 1953 and 1956. I am leaning very strongly towards 1955 and the third digit shows evidence of being a 5.

    So that I don't have to argue the point, someone pull out a nice 1909 cent and pull out a cent from 1953 to 1955 and compare them to the picture posted up there. Lincoln's bust will match the coin from the fifties.

    Thanks,
    Bill
     
  10. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    Hi,

    Please forgive my crude artwork but compare what I did to the image above.

    Thanks,
    Bill

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  11. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Bill
    Interesting notes.
     
  12. Carlos Arriaga

    Carlos Arriaga Senior Member

    Sorrry everybody yesterday I was no conected, there's a picture of the VDB zone.
     

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  13. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    it 195_ bills rigth

    * Bill your on the money all always
    amac
     
  14. Carlos Arriaga

    Carlos Arriaga Senior Member

    There's a 1955 cent, you can see the 9 is the same hight of the 1. Please judge again.
     

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  15. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    Hi,

    There is no need to "judge again". Your coin matches up perfectly to the 1955 cent you posted.

    Your picture of the "VDB zone" shows three clear marks that are the remnants of the VDB.

    It is well known amongst experts that the master hubs in the mid fifties were very worn. They produced very mushy master dies and consequently working hubs and working dies that lacked detail. Even an uncirculated 1955 cent looks like mush when compared to cents dated 1909.

    Coupled with the fact that dies in the mid fifties were used well past when they should have been discarded, we see many uncirculated and worn examples of cents dated in the mid-fifties where the VDB is almost non-existent.

    The fact that I can pick out a date range from when your coin was struck is not as critical as proving that it is not a 1909 dated piece. Your coin is not dated 1909.

    Thanks,
    Bill
     
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