Chinese counterfeit 1804 dollar on eBay-please help me report it.

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Isaiah, Nov 18, 2008.

  1. Isaiah

    Isaiah New Member

    I found the following on eBay:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Very-Nice-1804-Draped-Bust-Silver-Dollar_W0QQitemZ180307409647QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item180307409647&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

    This coin is clearly a Chinese counterfeit. It's extremley rare,It's from China, need I say more? the seller has 2 negatives and 1 neutral of less than 50. all of them complain that the coins are fake. please help me report this and the seller's other items. THANK YOU.[​IMG]T[​IMG][​IMG]
     
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  3. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Hello Isaiah, I will post this koin on the Coin Forgery eBay group, it's definitely a fake, as is the rest of the stuff he has for sale.
     
  4. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Will report it right now , thanks Isaiah .
    rzage
     
  5. Isaiah

    Isaiah New Member

  6. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I didn't even bother to look at his other stuff , I'll check them out and report them too .
    rzage:thumb::D
     
  7. Isaiah

    Isaiah New Member

    Thanks because they're counterfeits too.
     
  8. rld14

    rld14 Custom User Title

    I'm starting to get really sick of this ****. Reported, but I will say that a few of those bidders should have known better.

    Oooh, a flowing hair dollar in VF/XF for $300? Wow, and look it's in China and sold as-is! Oh no, it's counterfeit, oh wow!

    A fool and his money..
     
  9. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    I expect that with active reporting, plus seller's poor fb, a NARU may be coming soon..
     
  10. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Just to add fuel to the fire, is this one any less counterfeit? I don't know from Adam. That is a serious question.
     
  11. Isaiah

    Isaiah New Member

    I'm not understanding your question. could you rephrase that please?
     
  12. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Is it also a counterfeit?
     
  13. Isaiah

    Isaiah New Member


    yes of course. 1804 dollars are an extreme rarity.
     
  14. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

  15. Isaiah

    Isaiah New Member

  16. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Yes, that 1802 is a fake also. Besides the general mushiness and the 'Beijing mint frost,' the fields are way too smooth and on a 'worn' coin there is a rim you could cut a finger on.
    They also do a good bit of recutting of their dies, and as a result the outlines of things like the hair curls and the hair ribbon aren't right. It's a Gestalt sort of thing with these forgeries.
     
  17. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    Yeah, I noticed that as well. Hopefully they will get pulled soon.
     
  18. cesariojpn

    cesariojpn Coin Hoarder

    Hey!! He's holding the coin wrong!! Rims Mister!!
     
  19. acanthite

    acanthite ALIIS DIVES

    This seller also has fake Spanish Colonial reales for sale. Typical looking Chinese counterfeits.
     
  20. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    eBay woke up and they are GONE!
     
  21. elaine 1970

    elaine 1970 material girl

    who's to blame?.

    don't buy any too cheap stuffs that you knew it was a rare coin. that will prevent you from being buying a fake one.

    as far as i know. all chinese fake coins were selling around u.s.$0.10-$0.33 each. no matter what sizes. then came the middlemen either from u.s. or abroad. they put it on e-bay and sell it what ever they wanted or whatever the buyers wish to pay them. simple as that.
     
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