Rim on Greek Coin??

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Eric Coin, Nov 17, 2008.

  1. Eric Coin

    Eric Coin New Member

    Hi all,

    I have been finally organizing some of the coins I got from my grandpa. In one of the bags I found two old coins wrapped up. One is a big silver coin that looks Greek (probably about the size of a quarter). The other one is smaller (has a horse on it) and is kind of a bronze color but has some knicks in it and under the bronze color it looks silver.

    Ok, I can't set up my scanner to get some pictures of these two coins right now. But, I noticed that on both of these coins there is a line around the rim. Like if you are looking at the side of the coin there is a line just about right down the middle. It looks like maybe an area where if you pressed the coin together (to make it?) there was a small seam where the sides connected on the edges. When I first saw these coins I was really excited but ever since seeing the line I wonder if they are fake. My grandpa died 8 years ago and he never told me the history of these coins.

    I will try to get photos later, I don't know if anyone will be able to understand what I am trying to say without the photos. Just thought I would ask. :desk:
     
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  3. Eric Coin

    Eric Coin New Member

    Ok, this might not help. But here is a little diagram of the coin and where the line is (red).
     

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  4. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    A line on the edge is usually an imitation of a cast. Can you get a picture?
     
  5. Eric Coin

    Eric Coin New Member


    Yea, I will try to get one soon! Thanks
     
  6. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    I agree that is an indication of a cast fake. The line could be caused by the seam where the two dies come together.

    Another possibility (although remote) is the coins are electrotype copies where thin shell copies of the obverse and reverse are joined together and the hollow core filled with lead (or similar metal).
     
  7. Eric Coin

    Eric Coin New Member

    I was looking on ebay and found a coin that looks like mine. - Ptolemy XII Neos Dionysos

    I am attaching photos of my coin on here. This is one of two coins, this being larger and about the size of a US quarter.

    I know it is at least 10 years old.
     

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  8. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Sorry, but its a cast fake.
     
  9. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    ^^ I second that :)
     
  10. Eric Coin

    Eric Coin New Member

    Thanks for letting me know. At least I didn't buy it, but I wonder how my grandpa got ahold of it. Is the line around the rim the main give away or is there something else? The other coin he had also has that rim so I will assume it is a fake too.

    It is kind of scary since it looks so real. They do a good job making it look old.
     
  11. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    It doesnt look terribly real compared to a genuine Ptolemaios XII Neos Dionysos Tetradrachme:

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    As for how he got it, I couldnt say...maybe he bought them thinking the were real?
     
  12. Eric Coin

    Eric Coin New Member


    I just hope he didn't spend too much. Just another reason to talk with your relatives and get all the info you can while they are still alive.
     
  13. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    maybe it was shaved to get the weight right
     
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