I'm confused by this eBay auction: Indian Head Cent

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by cj415, Jul 8, 2020.

  1. cj415

    cj415 Member

    I was cruising through eBay when I came across this auction: https://ebay.us/irMwpk

    I have been known from time to time to take a chance and purchasing crimped bank rolls, doing some bank coin roll hunting, and even buying large lots hoping to find something special (spoiler: aside from some minor coin roll hunting wins, I've never EVER gotten anything worthwhile from an eBay auction of "unsearched" coins).

    But this one is odd. The end coin is either a rare 1909-S Indian Head Cent, or a semi-key 1908-S Indian Head Cent.

    But... this isn't a crimped / shotgun roll. It's a clear plastic tube with an end that unscrews. Can't the seller simply unscrew the end and peek at the coin to see if it's a coin worth $100 or a coin with $500 or more??????
     
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  3. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    There's no such thing as an unsearched roll being sold on ebay, they're all bs! I mean a miracle could happen but I wouldn't count on it! :D
     
  4. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Yes he could,which means you are going to get a 1908 S, possibly(probably?) with a damaged obv.
     
  5. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    That's pretty stupid...even for eBay. The other side is probably a carved up love token. On the other hand, the Seller has a 100% rating with 400+ nice reviews...who knows?
     
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  6. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Now, you don't know that.

    It could be a perfectly undamaged fake.
     
  7. Nick Zynko

    Nick Zynko ZmanFla

    I totally agree with Fretboard. I'm not sure what the seller's hook is by showing a clear tube with a twist off top and not laying out all coins? Even with a seller's 100% positive feedback, let the buyer beware as that listing would repel me vs intrigue me.
     
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  8. NOS

    NOS Former Coin Hoarder

    The coin itself looks to be quite authentic. There remains the possibility the S has been added but it looks to have a similar pattern of wear to the rest of the reverse. I would say the cent is likely to be a genuine S-mint and that bidders will bid accordingly for this coin as if it were a nicely circulated 1908-S and consider the rest to be mysterious bonuses.
     
  9. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    True, and I did consider adding that as a possibility.
     
  10. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    "A fool and his money are soon parted" and "Caveat Emptor" are axioms I live by. In my opinion, anyone who buys "Unsearched" coin rolls will be disappointed.
     
  11. Wizank

    Wizank Well-Known Member

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  13. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Or the S-Mint could be a counterfeit.

    There is no such thing as an unsearched roll, especially when it has a screw top.
     
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  14. Peter Economakis

    Peter Economakis Well-Known Member

    I'm getting the can't find link on ebay.
    It is pretty easy to remove negative feedback on ebay iv'e come to find out many times..
     
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  15. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    Maybe it's the elusive 1877-S that nobody ever heard of.
     
  16. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Page is not there. But it's around 100% that coin was not genuine.
    Either the coin was a phony, or, if the photo was correct it may have small print that says you will receive a roll "like" the one shown but not actually the one shown, and the photo is to jack up his sales price from suckers.
     
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  17. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    Maybe the screw top is symbolic to whoever buys it.
     
  18. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    Saw the link earlier and now it's gone. Must have found out CT'ers were on to him?
     
  19. Inspector43

    Inspector43 Celebrating 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    There are lots of gimmicks on eBay. I've seen this one many times. There was one that had a silver 3 cent piece showing on one end. Wow, what if there are more in there?
     
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  20. Mike Thornton

    Mike Thornton Learning something new everyday.

    tried the link. "page missing". Guessing he either sold it, or .....
     
  21. Inspector43

    Inspector43 Celebrating 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    A man after my own mood.
     
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