RE: Listen Up!

That screenshot along with this post would seem to suggest a large number of posters here have seen the notice and it can be removed. Seemingly the only person who hasn't is the one who actually started this whole thing and who does not browse this forum or collect ancients, based on his post history, and thus probably won't ever see it. I would tag him here to make sure he gets the message too but I'd rather not give him another reason to stir up trouble here and probably get a second pinned post created.

 

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I really didn’t want to respond here …………… but I will. To me the real heros/heroines on Forums/Message Boards like this are the Moderators. Theirs is often such a thankless task. The pay is very low (usually zero) and they are often called upon to enforce the Forum rules (that very few members ever read) and meter out admonitions and punishments to violators - with rapid response and action expected by reporters of transgressions - day and night. And of course, just like a judge in real-life, they frequently have to interpret the rules the way they see them.

I do speak from experience here for I have on occasion Administered/Moderated a few.

With reference to the Moderator’s pinned post at the top of this Forum section:

If I had been the Moderator, I would have surveyed the horrible jumbled mess of the thread and said to myself: “What a disaster! It will take me hours to sort out the bad guys (trolls, disrupters, snarlies) from the good guys (on-topic posters with good intentions), edit the posts of rule offenders individually, admonish the well intentioned by PM …………… etc. etc. To heck with it, I will just delete the whole thread and get some sleep.”

And, you cannot please everyone.

 

I understand that having one's work, which one writes with integrity, deleted by a moderator can be very upsetting. This has happened to me on other forums outside CT. You see, what was happening is that people would attack me with insults, while posting untrue claims about facts. However, their insults would not be deleted, but my reasoned, carefully-worded, factually supported responses would invariably be deleted. It certainly wasn't fair, but that's how it was. So I simply started using my authority as a thread author to delete comments that began with insults.

But in this case, an entire thread was removed, and individual people in good-standing here were not targeted or singled out. Our mustachioed, hat-and-sun-glasses wearing moderator put up a friendly sticky to explain what happened.

I would like to encourage all the members here, whom I look up to and respect, to read the sticky post again. It's not actually intended as a punishment at all--just a warning--one could even call it a "reminder with possible consequences indicated." (And even though I, by luck, never saw the post, I am glad of the reminder myself, as I easily could have done the same as others did.)

As for the reminder sticky, it was prefaced with a compliment. It makes no personal attacks. And the tone and the writing are informal in a kind of pleasingly folksy way. So let's not see the sticky as a punishment, please.

There's an old expression: "jaw-jaw is better than war-war."

Perhaps we can repurpose that into "coin-coin is better than protest-protest."

Let's go back to focusing on what we all are here to do, and what we all love: posting here in a great community about ancient coins!

 

Alot of butt kissing going on, looks like from my house.

 

Would it be a lot of trouble to make that explicit, so this kind of thing doesn't happen again? Because it wasn't obvious to me that the quotation of offending words would be treated exactly the same as the original statement of those words, even though the intention in posting them was completely different.

 

Don't get me wrong, i like the forums, and Doug and the other mods usually do a great job, but every once in a while i see something that needs to be said. What I'm seeing here is a bunch of people clicking the like button just because "the guy" made a post.

You got a little something, on your nose. It's brown.

 

That was uncalled for. Come on. Be nice.

 

No thank you, Ms Donna, I'd rather be honest.

 

Maybe it's honest for you, but it still served no purpose in saying it. Except for it being self-serving.

 

and? did it give you the vapors?

 

It is utterly important that discourse in this forum must be civil and respectful. That, at least is the principle, but of course that is not how the real world works, human nature being what it is.

Any post that contains demeaning, bullying, untruthful and provocative content must be reported to the moderator.

Any attempt on the part of members to respond to the bullying post usually results in a series of escalating responses that ultimately end badly. That is the sad truth, especially in these increasingly polarized times.

Remember, we cannot control what other people do, but we can control how we respond.

 

I tire of this whole subject! Can we get back to coins?

 

Sorry, your an idiot and have obviously spent no time on this forum, othwise you would have realised that this poster was one of the most respected in the Ancients forum.

I for one have no further interest in this thread

 

Not at all, but apparently you got them up yourself.

 

Oh, so you said something bad about another person, motivated by the call to represent honesty?

How virtuous!



Carinus 283-285 AD

Silvered AE, small planchet, Antioch 284 AD

Obverse: IMP CM AVR CARINVS PF AVG Laureate and cuirassed bust right.

Reverse: VIRTVS AVGG Carinus and @atcarroll im military attire stg. Facing each other, Carinus on the right leaning on spear and presenting Victory on globe. The one on the left holding short sceptre. XXI in exergue, officina mark B.

Reference: RCV 12362 RIC 325 Hunter 46-8

 

That's pretty cool, I've never been rendered on a coin before.

 

*You're

 

Somewhere a heated discussion about whether a coin ought to be graded MS64 or MS65 is happening...

HINT: @atcarroll The US coins forum is that way ----------------------------------->

 

I like us coins and ancients.