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I've got the S-111 and the S-195 in USPS purgatory. Both tracked to delivery on 6/29 and neither has arrived.

 

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My neighbor delivered my missing packages. She only checks her box every couple of weeks. So I guess I was lucky.

 

I did not realize this thread was still active until just recently when I started getting interested in identifying large cents and early coppers. For some reason, I stopped getting alerts from CT whenever someone posted in here! Glad to be back, and hopefully I can test out my beginner skills!

 

S-224 die stage II? or am I missing something.

 

I'm thinking the strong CUD over AME indicates it is a stage V. The rim break begins in stage II, but I don't think it becomes a CUD until stage IV. It's too worn to see the stage V marker (additional rim break at OF), but the CUD seems advanced.

But I could be wrong since there seems to be a little difference between Breen and Noyes on the die stages. I only found a stage V that matched up on Heritage Archives so I went with it though that one was even more advanced by a scosh (just reaches the tip of E).

 

Breen says as part of Stage II "Rim break above AME, touching M". A break says to me a piece of the die has broken way, and if that piece extends far enough in to touch the M that sounds like a full cud. There is also no further description in the later stages of anything about the area over AME. So I would assume it is a full cud on Stage II and all later stages.

This is from the Holmes sale where they called it a Breen Stage III, but the condition is low enough that I can't determine the crumbling of the denticals right of the F.

 

The Noyes Reverses indicate Five Stages A through E. Stage C has the Rim Break I thought was the equivalent of Breen II, but it doesn't actually touch the M, though it comes close. His D sows it touching the M, so that may be his equivalent. But Noyes D and E both show a rim break in the dentils right of F. Noyes gives a diagnostic of the CUD at AME expanding back toward the rim break over F as the move from Stage D to Stage E, but I can't see a difference in his photos.

I'm actually more comfortable with calling it Noyes Reverse stage D or E than any of the Breen stages. But Breen stages are still the standard. But I can see where it can be called any of the Breen stages II, III, IV or V. I guess the alternative is to just mention the CUD and too low a grade to render a Die Stage other than it's not I.

But neither mention the movement of the CUD reaching the tip of E like the one labeled V in the Heritage Archives, so perhaps that one is deserving of the title of Terminal Die Stage.

 

This one has arrived and these are my photos including high resolution close ups of key diagnostic areas. I have not begun using them yet and will do so as soon as I am finished posting them.

 

Here are a couple of more:

 

This will eliminate most obverses:

 

1800 Project

After much playing with comps, I have decided I cannot eliminate Obverse 15 or Reverse R. It looked close to Obverse 8 but not like Reverse J. it looked close to Reverse K but not Obverse 9. It also looked like Reverse V which Noyes indicates is different from R though some consider them the same. But since 15R (S-209) cannot be eliminated, I'll go with that.

The location of N(T) still bugs me, but the coins isn't strong enough to eliminate PMD.

As an aside, I will now look more closely at LIBERTY since it does not to be part of an Obverse HUB since there is variation of the spacing.

 

Just picked this up. I hope it is as described and a S-76a. It's another high detail problem coin like I like. While definitely severely damaged, it actually has XF hair detail showing three distinct hair strands behind the ear which only show up with a good strike even on xf and au.

 

After it came in, a closeup of the reverse makes me back it up to a Noyes C. There is no evidence of a rim break at F. But it does make my prior grading of my other one, which I called middle die state a definite Noyes A.

 

I don't have a copy of Noyes early date book so I have no idea what his die states are. Does he have images of the die states in the book or are they in the condition census books? The only Noyes book I have is the 1816-39 book.

 

He has photos of most die states from each die.

One big difference between him and Breen is that he carries the die state throughout the life of the die and across varieties. He also die states the individual dies, both obverse and reverse, rather than the variety which is why converting the Breen Die states for varieties and Noye's individual die states more of an art than a translation. This is without differences he has with Breen's die progression diagnostics.

I'm a fan of Noye's methodology over Breen's.

Since Noyes had several different sets, I'll tell you I have the six volume set.

1793-1794 2006
1795-1797 2007
1798-1801 2015
1802-1814 2015
1816-1845 2012 Descriptions and some die state photos
1846-1857 2012 Descriptions and some die state photos

I purchased these on a bundle for $600. Individually they would be about $900.

 

I Couldn't Get My S-76 Map to properly overlay to confirm attribution. But this could be due an error on my part.

 

Part of the problem is the seller's photos were taken on a bias and I had to"round" it up with photoshop. I'll take proper photos when it gets here.

 

Just another Attribution error by a TPG for those who think plastic is the last word in attribution. This is actually a nice low grade specimen of S-74 which I wouldn't mind having in my collection.

https://coins.ha.com/itm/large-cent...278-28.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

 

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffnt&q=J.+Stapleton&atb=v182-1&ia=web
Page 2 Full Stock Pennsylvania Long Rifle

I found this on the web and it was describing a rifle from c. 1840s. It looks identical to the countermark on my S-5.

James Stapleton (1833-1900) spent his whole adult life as one of the finer makers in Todd Township located in Huntingdon County, Pennsylvania during the mid to late 1800’s & this rifle is a very nice example of his work.

 

I lost another bidding war. Probably a good thing since I was going to have to finance it over a couple of years.