Potential 1913 liberty nickel real or counterfeit?

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  1. dready

    dready Coin Hoarder

    This is the best I can get with my camera............... John
     

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  3. cesariojpn

    cesariojpn Coin Hoarder

    Huh? Wait, i'm confused now.
     
  4. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    What do you mean. The guy that slabs the SGS coins also sells them...he "submitted" the coin to his own company and graded it as a possible 1913. Then, he sent it to NGC (look at the NGC submission paper, his name is on it) and paid the fee to have it graded by them.
     
  5. cesariojpn

    cesariojpn Coin Hoarder

    Oh, I see Now.....Dummy (The auction guy, not you).
     
  6. nickelman

    nickelman Coin Hoarder

    The only suprise to me is the SGS holder doesn't read "Potential 1913 MS70" LOL.
     
  7. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    I retract my statement of this possibly being an honest mistake... I think it's very clear that Abon/SGS clearly intended to get someone to believe it was a 1913... they just used the word "potential" so when the sucker who buys it complains it's not a 1913, they can say "We never said it was, we just said it potentially was."

    I am also now convinced that the person who submitted it to NGC as a "potential" 1913 is probably someone at SGS themselves. They just wanted the piece of paper from NGC saying "We can't tell what this is." Somehow that is supposed to show some legitimacy... I suppose the logic is something like "NGC didn't say it was fake, and they didn't say it wasn't a 1913, so that proves it could be..." (A classic logical fallacy is to assume that something that has not been disproven is therefore proven.)

    Anyone who would bid on this would have to know how rare a genuine 1913 would be right? It's a pretty well known fact that only 5 are known to exist. I don't get how someone could be educated enough to know how rare this is and yet be so gullible as to think a genuine one would ever be listed on eBay, espeically if it's a confirmed genuine 6th find of a coin that for years only 5 have ever been known. The odds of coming out ahead in such a deal are rediculously astronomical; you have better odds gambling your money at Vegas.
     
  8. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Thanks , it looked pretty good on the 1st picture , but you can really see the tool marks on the enlarged picture .
    rzage:)
     
  9. tdec1000

    tdec1000 Coin Rich, Money Poor :D

    I actually believe that more than 5 nickels were made. All have been supposively destroyed exept 5 from my knowledge. But then there is the 1974 aluminum cent so anything is possible.
     
  10. quartertapper

    quartertapper Numismatist

    Makes me wonder how many buffalos had their legs amputated in homes all across the country only to rip off some sucker logged in to ebay. Bad enough we have to worry about Chinese counterfeits, let alone people with hand tools and too much time on their hands.
     
  11. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    I think it's a conterfei:secret:t and here's the guy that's responsible for making them.
    Jazzcoins joe
     

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  12. quartertapper

    quartertapper Numismatist

    I hope to see a lot more mug shots like that soon. These people are making coin collecting way too difficult !!!
     
  13. cesariojpn

    cesariojpn Coin Hoarder

    Yes. But then again, the fact the guy went thru the trouble of trying to get this authenticated is worth a laugh alone.
     
  14. quartertapper

    quartertapper Numismatist

    Is there a section on CT for guys like this yet?
     
  15. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Do you have any evidence to support this? I have never heard of any more than the 5 known coins.
     
  16. cesariojpn

    cesariojpn Coin Hoarder

    Not until that lawsuit with the Shop at Home guys plays out. Calling them "Morons" hurt their feelings.
     
  17. Aslanmia

    Aslanmia Active Member

    What?! Did I miss something important?
     
  18. cesariojpn

    cesariojpn Coin Hoarder

    It was a joke, stop having an aneurysm...
     
  19. Aslanmia

    Aslanmia Active Member

    Hey, that's not funny... my goldfish died of an aneurysm.
     
  20. Isaiah

    Isaiah New Member

    could we please stay on topic if possible?
     
  21. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I have never heard of this. Is there anywhere you know of that there might be more of this story available for me to read up on?
     
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