Delmatius

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  1. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I have been active on the ancients forum for over 6 months and I don't think I've ever seen anybody post a Delmatius coin.

    I have this rough example, which cost less than a dollar.

    Oddly enough, the wikipedia article on Delmatius is extremely short, and I can't find any statuary representations of the guy. Weird.

    eBay searches result in prices that seem pretty high for what the coins are. I wasn't aware he was such a rare emperor.

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  3. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    DELMATIUS

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    RI Delmatius 335-337 CE Quarter Folles CHI RHO banner flanked by 2 soldiers Sear 3131
     
  4. Finn235

    Finn235 Well-Known Member

    He isn't all that rare, but he is shrouded in mystery - the Constantine Boys seem to have erased him quite effectively after he was murdered.

    Sadly, there isn't much to collect as far as his coinage goes - he only features on two varieties of one type of AE coinage, from a handful of mints.

    The rare pre-reform two standards GLORIA EXERCITVS
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    The common post-reform single standard
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    There are also AR and AV coins out there, but so rare that I can't recall ever seeing one at auction.
     
  5. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Great examples! I just wonder why the cheapest eBay coin is 20 bucks. A comparable coin of Constans, Constantius II, or Constantine Jr would be at most 5-10 dollars.

    awesome pre reform double standard coin. I rather like the sand Latina
     
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  6. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    My most photogenic example:

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    Delmatius, as Caesar, AD 335-337.
    Roman billon reduced centenionalis, 1.47g, 16.4 mm, 1 h.
    Siscia, AD 336-337.
    Obv: FL DELMATIVS NOB C, laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right.
    Rev: GLOR-IA EXERC-ITVS, two soldiers standing facing each other, each resting on on spear and shield, one standard between them; BSIS in exergue.
    Refs: RIC vii, p. 458, 256; LRBC 758; Cohen 4; RCV 16894.
     
  7. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Delmatius - AE3 S and S ex GH 1687.JPG DELMATIUS
    AE3. 1.36g, 17.5mm. Siscia mint, AD 335-337. RIC VII Siscia 256 (R1). O: FL DELMATIVS NOB C, laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right. R: GLOR-IA EXERC-ITVS, two soldiers standing facing on either side of a standard, each holding a spear and shield; BSIS in exergue.

    Before the massacre by Constantine's sons, Delmatius definitely seemed to be getting the short end of the stick. His brother Hanniballianus had the cooler name, got the fancy title (Rex Regum et Ponticarum Gentium), and also the girl - Constantina, Constantine's eldest daughter. Even his coins were more interesting...

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    HANNIBALLIANUS, as Rex Regum
    AE4. 1.48g, 16mm. Constantinople mint, AD 336-337. RIC VII 147; LRBC 1034, Cohen 2. O: FL HANNIBALLIANO REGI, bare-headed, draped, cuirassed bust right. R: SE-CVRITAS PVBLICA, river god Euphrates seated right on ground, holding sceptre, overturned urn at his side, from which waters flow, reed in background; CONSS in exergue.
     
  8. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    HANNIBALLIANUS

    HOW could ANY Roman call their child by this name, when it is rooted in Roman history with vile and hatred towards this namesake?

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    RI Hanniballianus Rex Regum of Pontos 335-337 CE BI reduced centenionalis 337 17mm Euphrates reclining
     
  9. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    We really should note that some of his coins used the spelling 'Dalmatius'.
    There are a lot of coins out there for Delmatius but who has anything other than the most common of the common GLORIA EXERCITVS issues? As boring rulers go, he is right up at the top.
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  10. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    No D(E)(A)lmatius in my and FFIVN's collection. I've only seen the GLORIA EXERTIVS examples. Even the portrait is so similar to other emperors around that era that without the legend, I would be hard pressed to tell them apart. :yawn: lol
     
  11. bcuda

    bcuda El Ibérico loco

    I did not have a pic of mine so I just went and took one.

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    Delmatius AE4.
    335-337 AD.
    Obv: FL IVL DELMA-TIVS NOB C
    laureate & cuirassed bust right
    Rev: GLOR-IA EXERC-ITVS, two
    soldiers holding spears &
    shields with one standard
    between them, O on banner.
    SMANI in ex. Antioch
    RIC VII Antioch 112,
    1.69 grams
     
  12. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Here's one, that @Bing lightened up for me.



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  13. Orielensis

    Orielensis Well-Known Member

    I agree.

    Here are two more boring Delmatius coins – I bought the second one only because it was mislabeled and too cheap to say no, and I somewhat regret it. Maybe I can at some point find somebody who wants to trade it for something more interesting. Yet, my hopes are quite low...

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    Delmatius, Roman Empire, AE4, 335–337 AD, Antioch mint. Obv: FL DELMATIVS NOB C; laureate, draped, cuirassed bust of Delmatius r. Rev: GLORIA EXERCITVS; two soldiers standing with one standard between them; mintmark SMANΘ. 15mm, 1.36g. RIC VII Antioch 112.

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    Delmatius, Roman Empire, AE4, 336–337 AD, Cyzicus mint. Obv: FL DELMATIVS NOB C; laureate, draped, cuirassed bust of Delmatius r. Rev: GLORIA EXERCITVS; two soldiers standing with one standard between them; mintmark SMKE. 15mm, 1.32g. RIC VII Cyzicus 132.
     
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  14. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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    DELMATIUS
    AE Follis
    OBVERSE: FL DELMATIVS NOB C, laureate, draped & cuirassed bust right
    REVERSE: GLORIA EXERCITVS dot, two soldiers standing, holding spears & shields, one standard between them, O on banner. Mintmark CONSI
    Struck at Constantinople 336-7 AD
    1.3g, 16 mm
    RIC 153
     
  15. philologus_1

    philologus_1 Supporter! Supporter

    Arles RIC 399 (PCONST) half-follis with Chi-Rho on banner:
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    ($19 in 2014)
     
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