Silver Proof Sets versus Regular Proof Sets?

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  1. elaine 1970

    elaine 1970 material girl

    two are all good

    i like silver proof rather than clad proof. it is more whiter and much expensive.
     
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  3. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    I have been purchasing a silver proof set every year since returning to the hobby back in 1996. The thing that I have noticed lately is that the mintage numbers both last year and this year are quite low for the silver sets. I understand that as the price has risen, the demand has been lower. I only hope that going forward people continue to collect silver proof sets as this will mean solid appreciation for any set with low mintage.
     
  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    So stop now while you are ahead. Go buy your sets at a coin show or a dealer's shop where you can pick them out and forget about ebay.
     
  5. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    If you search for the thread listing dealers that I started, the one from Virgina had hundreds of proof sets to chose from.

    Ruben
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    And 99% of the dealers will sell a set with haze just like the ebay sellers do. Now if you take the time to ask the dealer if any sets have haze and state that you categorically do not want sets with haze. You will have better luck.

    Establishing a relationship with a dealer is one of the best ways there is to buy.
     
  7. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    oddly, the sets I have received from the mint haven't been hazy. I didn't think that it was an issue since the late 70s. When a set has been unacceptable, the Mint has been very good about replacing them. The one I did have to return recently the Wyoming quarters had a haze in the field.
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It doesn't always show up right away, sometimes it never does. But there are a lot of times when it does show up. Improper storage adds to the problem.

    This may help explain why - Click Here
     
  9. dollarcoins4fun

    dollarcoins4fun E Pluribus Unum

    Silver vs. Clad Proof Sets

    GDJMSP,

    I have learned a lot from your posts. I like your idea of going thru local dealers and establishing a repore' with them and bypassing Ebay.

    That article you gave me was key. WOW! No wonder the 2001 sets are so expensive on Ebay. You can't find them for under a 100 dollars each now (Silver). Some people are asking up to $400.00 dollars for the Silver sets (2001).

    Here's a quote from this article you posted:

    "The Mint held back 150,000 Proof sets each from 1999, 2000 and 2001 in a scheduled plan. Officials wanted to offer them to collectors who may have missed the initial offerings and to new collectors wanting to get into the hobby after collecting the State quarter dollars and wanting to start from the beginning, according to Pickens."

    My question for you is, if the U.S. Mint is holding back 150,000 sets for collectors to play catch up who came into it late (That's me) when do you think they will be offering those three years? Hawaii is it for the 50 state quarters. Could the Territories be the key?

    I noticed that the U.S. Mint opens the vault from time to time (i.e. 2001 Kennedy Half dollars). Could these sets 1999, 2000, & 2001 not be that far off?

    Can you also tell me some other items that the U.S. Mint brought out of the vault recently?

    Thanks.
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    That was an old article, did you notice the date ? posted 8/9/02

    They released those sets in 2002 and it blew up in their faces. Thye pretty much agreed not to try that again.

    But right now, they are clearing out all the stuff they have, have been for a couple of days now. I suspect most of it is already gone or spoken for.
     
  11. dollarcoins4fun

    dollarcoins4fun E Pluribus Unum

    They, being the U.S. Mint? All the stuff they have being the 2008 Proof sets: silver & clad?
     
  12. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    They better have something left. I just received this huge gift catalog.

    Ruben
     
  13. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Started early this morning...still lots for sale.
     
  14. dollarcoins4fun

    dollarcoins4fun E Pluribus Unum

    U.S. Mint Sale

    It was nice... I picked up the 2007 Proof sets: Silver & Clad.

    Do they ever reduce the prices? It's interesting when they use the term sale.
     
  15. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    That's an interesting question. I do believe that the prices that these offerings are going for is the price that would have been charged when they were initially on sale. I don't think we're getting a bargain here folks, although who ever walked off with the 2004 mint set(s) probably did rather nicely.
     
  16. elaine 1970

    elaine 1970 material girl

    not good at all

    all those dated before 2008 might be returned goods. coins might be toned. not a good investment. those were really unwanted coins.. the mint should have been melted it long time ago.
     
  17. dollarcoins4fun

    dollarcoins4fun E Pluribus Unum

    Returned goods

    I hope not... As mentioned below I picked up the 2007 proof sets: Silver & Clad. I was told to go thru the U.S. Mint rather than on Ebay because as I've been playing catch-up with these proof sets. I've gotten some stinkers from some of the dealers: toned coins, some of them the boxes weren't so nice, a couple smelled like an ash tray.

    I hope your wrong elaine...
     
  18. elaine 1970

    elaine 1970 material girl

    don't buy

    don't buy 2007 proof set. i bought 25 set before on closing date during 2008. all were toned. hazed. and all the outer boxes were terrible. i can returned. but just to gamble it due to low mintage. and the mint can't replace it. see the description from the mint. you can return it only if damage during delivery or in transit. how can those coins be damage. it can only be toned or hazed during water damaged at warehouse. returned by other and due to unsafe keeping. you can try it. you will be discourage.
     
  19. SINED

    SINED XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

    Nothing beats picking up a coin , raw or slabbed and eyeballing it. A photograph or an on line image can make the decision difficult.
     
  20. boxcar99

    boxcar99 New Member

    Hi Elaine.

    Haze is pretty natural for a modern proof set, whether it's silver or clad. Those sets do open and close easily, so you could pop them out and clean them, but I would not recommend it. It's pretty easy to damage the coins. I don't clean my coins, but I'm really picky about how I store them, always in an intercept shield box (http://www.collectons.com/shop/item/3354/Intercept-Shield-Storage-Box-for-Mint-Proof-Sets) with a dehumidifier (http://www.collectons.com/shop/cat/179/index/0/Coin-Supplies-Dehumidifiers). Those same guys sell proof sets on their site too and they guarantee satisfaction.
     
  21. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    Elaine, I haven't noticed ANY hazy sets in the last several years. I would suggest that when you buy, inspect the sets that you receive. No matter how tedious this may sound. If, in the future your sets tone or haze, then you can be relatively certain that it is the environment in which they are being stored that is causing the hazing and take appropriate action for the future.
     
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