1935 Peace $ Please grade & comment.

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  1. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Bruce I know better than most how deceiving pics can be. And on your new pics yeah some of the stuff I was seeing before appears to be gone. But some of it still looks like it's there even in the new pics.

    So I don't know what to say beyond what I have already said.
     
    GDJMSP, Nov 11, 2008
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  3. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Not to be rude but I think this coin is body bagged. I think it is harshly cleaned. Its a pity because of the detail, but that is what I think unless you can explain the spotting on the fields.

    Ruben
     
    mrbrklyn, Nov 11, 2008
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  4. diocletian

    diocletian Senior Member

    No where near harshly cleaned.
     
    diocletian, Nov 12, 2008
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  5. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    then explain the surface marks that cover the entire coin?

    Ruben
     
    mrbrklyn, Nov 12, 2008
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  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I have to agree Ruben, I don't think the coin was harshly cleaned at all. Dipped for a bit too long maybe but that's it.
     
    GDJMSP, Nov 12, 2008
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  7. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Dipped/cleaner

    I didn't say it was whizzed. I sure there is a technical difference but the resultant loss of surface is there.

    Ruben
     
    mrbrklyn, Nov 12, 2008
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  8. diocletian

    diocletian Senior Member

    diocletian, Nov 13, 2008
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  9. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    mrbrklyn, Nov 13, 2008
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  10. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Ruben,

    Whizzing is defined by PCGS in THE OFFICIAL GUIDE TO COIN GRADING AND COUNTERFEIT DETECTION as "The process of mechanically moving the metal of a lightly circulated coin to simulate luster. Usually accomplished by using a wire brush attachment on a high-speed drill."

    That is not what happened to this coin with all due respect. The owner of this coin wanted to get rid of the dirt so they scrubbed it with a brillo pad. There was no intent to try an make this circulated coin appear uncirculated. This is just an example of a harshly cleaned coin. If you want a photo of a whizzed coin, I can accomodate you.

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    This coin looks uncirculated at first glance, fully detailed and fully lustrous, but look again.

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    I am not picking on you Ruben, I just want you to understand the difference between whizzing and cleaning.

    Sincerely, Paul
     
    Lehigh96, Nov 13, 2008
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  11. rld14

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    rld14, Nov 13, 2008
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  12. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Always a good policy.
     
    Lehigh96, Nov 14, 2008
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  13. Doug21

    Doug21 Coin Hoarder

    the 1935 didn't look right to me either, more like a commercial unc.
     
    Doug21, Nov 14, 2008
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  14. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    What is a commercial unc?
     
    Lehigh96, Nov 15, 2008
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  15. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Looking at the 2nd set of photos, it looks like a nice MS63-ish coin to me. To tell if it has been lightly cleaned, I would take an LED flashlight and examine it with a magnifying glass in a dim room while moving the light around, and look for wispy curved hairlines across the fields and devices.
    NIce example of a whizzed coin posted by Lehigh-- whoever did that job knew what they were doing.
     
    ksparrow, Nov 15, 2008
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