NEW PROOF 1952 LINCOLN WITH MASSIVE 2-SIDED DIE CRACK JUST BOUGHT

it has carbon spots, and from mishandling by the vendor it has fingerprints now...but it is an error planchet. and a proof at that...

 

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Thanks for the additional photos, but they are
not helpful at all. Take them out of the 2x2 holders
and take another set of photos.

Based on what I see in all the photos so far, it is not
a die break, and not a planchet break (lamination or
planchet crack).

(don't know what 'connected thru rim' means)

.....just tryin' to be helpful.

 

it means, that the crack starts on one side of the coin goes to the rim, then across the rim and onto the other side, like as if if it were all the way it would just snap into 2 pieces, it only goes 2.4 inch on each side though..it is not a scratch, i am done as getting nothing but negativity on here, so that is all...not unpackaging it is in my set, from now on not sharing anymore...too much nay saying...

 

The 2x2 states Die Crack.. That a Die Issue. Not a planchet issue..

 

You are so confused for a beginner collector.

 

Again you may not have a good handle on grading. But that coin has more than carbon spots and finger prints. It has had detrimental mishandling.

 

in hand, it looks a lot better than the pics show..rev is glossy and well defined..anyways....i think a cracked planchet is interesting enough, much less in proof..if this were an 1804 dollar in this shape, would you still just spend (or scrap it)??proof errors are very hard and expensive to come by...

 

i wrote that, before i saw went through to the other side, that is my writing, i later decided it is a cracked planchet...

 

No.. It's not a cracked planchet.
You dont understand how cracked planchets really occur.
It's not worth what you paid.

Since you like wasting money then send it in to have it attributed by NGC or PCGS. Explain to them your theory.. Then come back and prove me wrong.

 

ok, since the crack starts on one side, continues through the rim (ther is a line on the rim connecting the two, do you consider this to be a two sided die break, or a split planchet??..i am new to this, but i doubt that both dies would break and would connect on the coin, with a die break on the rim as well?? i am confused why you do not think it is a defective planchet/?///

 

AND I AM NOT PAYING 35.00 TO GRADE A 19.00 COIN, THAT IS ASSININE

 

If you understood the minting process then you would understand what occurred.

How many Dies are used to strike a coin?
The answer is 3

The Hammer Die, the Anvil Die and the retaining Collar which is known as the 3rd die. That's how reeded coins get their reeds. When the Anvil and the Hammer Die come together it expands the Blank Planchet and the reeds are created. There are no reeds of course on the Cent..

So. If there is a Crack Hammer Die and a Crack on the Anvil Die AND a Crack on the Retaining Collar (Yes that does happen) then you will have a DIE CRACK issue. Your Cent has a Die Crack issue Not a Planchet Issue. The strike DID NOT crack the Planchet. The Blank Planchet took the form of the Cracked Dies when it was struck!... Got it?

 

That Cent is not worth that much.. To you it is because you overpaid for it!
There was no bargain.

 

Best statement within this thread is above! If you learn nothing at all about coins, learn this. Never pay good money for a coin that has finger prints all over it! You may get some harsh comments here on CoinTalk but we all just want you to learn that you did yourself wrong by buying that coin. Now is the time to learn from your mistake, so man up and move on to the next coin!! Better luck next time!

 

OK, DID NOT KNOW THAT THE ODDS OF ALL 3 COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN, IN THAT CASE, RARER THAN I THIOUGHT...LOL anyways, die cracks are collectible, as i do collect them and i see many for sale on ebay and other forums as well..not wanting to argue, i think this is unique, i liked it and i bought it, and was showing it off...

 

so, if say a 1943 unc copper came by you or an 1804 dollar, with prints, you would just scrap or spend it??

 

Glad you like it! Now just move on to the next coin. It's more than obvious that you would rather not learn and be right than to take some constructive criticism.
Don't worry about it we deal with know it all's everyday, the fact is they waste ridiculous amounts of money on problem coins. Tell their family how expensive and rare they are then when you pass on someone offers there real value and your kids feel like they are getting taken advantage of.

 

That's completely different from what you bought so it's totally irrelevant! Hey John, nobody is trying to bust your chops on this at all but this is an educational forum and we are all learning. You're not the only one on this forum who is learning here, I learn as I go, just like you. good day!

 

have no family, all dead, so my cat's will get them, lol and learning as well, just do not agree, as this crack goes from one side, through the rim and onto the other side, it just seems miraculous that all 3 dies cracked, and that they are precisely in the same place, the lines connect through the rim, so i differ from the outcome paddy suggested of all 3 dies failing at once..sorry and am not offering it for sale, it is already bought and paid for so no recourse anyways, if i am wrong, then i have a 52 proof with 3 die breaks, and go on from there...

 

By the way. I just gave you my opinion on what could of occured. I never stated that's what it is.
Your pictures are bad and you never showed us the edge. No matter what you think it is not a cracked planchet.