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In July 1908, a group of workmen in Brussels were pulling down an old tavern near a cathedral in the city centre during construction of the main railway line.
As they dug down, they discovered a large container placed in a bricked-up vault beneath a water cistern. The container apparently crumbled as soon as it was touched - hardly surprising considering it had probably been sealed over 600 years before.

But what they found inside was truly astounding: an extraordinary array of over 140,000 medieval coins, the largest deliberately buried hoard of coins ever found, according to Guinness World Records.

Known as the Brussels Hoard, it comprised roughly 64,000 continental coins but also 81,000 English, Scottish and Irish silver pennies. With so many examples minted in England during the reign of Henry III (1216-72), the hoard might well have originally been some sort of Royal payment for trade or military purposes.

But whatever the reason for its existence, it seems the hoard was deposited for safe-keeping back in 1267 during the unrest in the Flemish capital when the city's craft guilds armed themselves and rebelled against the authorities.

• ATG Reporter
• 10 Sep 2012

One of the 101 coins from the Brussels Hoard which will be offered at Baldwin’s on September 27. This Henry III penny (long cross) minted in London is one of three of its type in the collection and is estimated at £1000-1200.

 

CURRENT STATE OF AFFAIRS IN
BULGARIA’ MUSEUMS
The initiators of this series
Coin Collection and Coin Hoards in Bulgaria (CCCH- Bulg), intend to make public the collections of ancient coins from those museums in Bulgaria where they have access and where they can find adherent followers, co-uthors,people who are aware of the importance of‘sealed’ information. The philosophy of the authors and the contributors of this project are based on the understanding that this type of information is not a personal or even a national property in perpetuity, but is above all – a universal possession..

Evgene Paunov et al.
Everybody who is not a curator berates Museums for their secret ways ie Sealed Information.Their complete unwillingness to be co-operative and to put obstacles in your way.

 

The Elmali Hoard in Antalya Museum otherwise known as the Dekadrachm Hoard. Repatriated from that well-known colony of Attica the USA!
It is my understanding that the coins have never been properly catalogued-inc the Dekadrachms?
Museums eh-who would have them.

 

I post this too often, but there's an excuse here as it's from the Mesagne Hoard, found in around 1980. It doesn't seem to be in the 1984 paper on the hoard by Hersh & Walker - they list 138 examples of Cr. 412/1, but not this symbol pair.

Denarius of L. Roscius Fabatus
Obv. L. ROSCI - Head of Juno Sospita right, wearing goatskin headdress; laurel branch behind
Rev. Female figure standing right, feeding snake coiled erect before her
Exergue: FABATI
Mint: Rome (64 BC)
Wt./Size/Axis: 3.90g / 18mm / 6h
References:

• RSC 3 (Roscia)
• Sydenham 915
• Crawford 412/1
• Sear RCV 363

Provenances:

• Ex. William F. Stevens Collection
• Ex. Chris Rudd List 67, Jan. 2003, no. 38
• Ex. Leu Numismatik auction 83, 7-May-2002, lot 665
• Ex. Mesagne Hoard

http://numismatics.org/chrr/id/MES




ATB,
Aidan.

 

Reply by Joe Sermarini owner of Forum Ancient Coins on the discussion page on a comment about the number of old styles coming to market

"I think all of a sudden has actually been the last two years! It must have been a HUGE hoard. I was offered a very large quantity more than a year ago. Since I am in the USA, and it might involve some legal issues, that sort of deal is not for me."

Anymore dealers want to add to this?

 

I'm not a dealer, but I've read estimates of 30,000+ Athenian tetradrachms.
Prices for all but the very best coins have fallen considerably as a result of this.

Also, some other coins, such as the Aspendos staters with warrior/triskeles (previously rare) and Imperial cistophori have turned up in large hoards in the last couple of years. Darics probably too, they seem more common and cheap in recent months.

ATB,
Aidan.

 

They have? From what I see, one has to pay at least $900 or $1,000 for a reasonably decent example. What did they cost before?

 

Several thousand at least. I remember seeing nice examples in the $3,000 to $5,000 range that weren't near as nice as some of the examples going for around $1,000 now.

 

Hi all,

I have several from the new Egyptian Hoards (EH) and one or two from the older Coin Hoards series. This is one of 9 I have from EH 96, The Iraq al-Amir Hoard, 1993 (CH 9.497, 10.268):




PTOLEMY II PHILADELPHOS (285-246 BCE)
CYPRUS: UNCERTAIN MINT 09
before c 275 BCE
Ar Stater (Tetradrachm)
Size: 26x28 mm
Weight: 14.02 g

OBV: Ptolemy I head facing right, wearing diadem and scaly aegis tied by snakes. Dotted border.
REV: Εagle on thunderbolt facing left, wings closed. In left field: ΠΑΤΡ monogram above ΠΤ-within-circle monogram. Legend to left: ΠΤΟΛ[ΕΜΑΙΟΥ]; to
right: ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ. Dotted border.
Refs: Lorber CPE-415a; Sv-764, pl xxv, 1 [14 listed]; Copenhagen-467 as Ptolemais.

From EH 96. The Iraq al-Amir Hoard, 1993 (CH 9.497, 10.268), Baldwin's stock (pl 2.27): same reverse die as #782; same obv die as #784: pl 44, #783A.

- Broucheion

 

This is one of my hoard coins, likely from the Sitichoro hoard found near Pharsalus in Thessaly in 1968. None of this type were known until that hoard and all coins in the hoard were mint state- which makes me pretty confident it is from that hoard.



175-170 BC
Obverse: Head of Helios three-quarter facing, right, imitating Rhodian issues. Reverse: Rose, bud right, magistrate’s name above. Silver, 14-15 mm approx., 2.54 g. (*Diameter unrecorded prior to encapsulation) Authority/ruler: Perseus of Macedon (c. 212-166 BC) Catalog info: Ashton 15 or similar. NGC Ch MS; Strike 5/5, Surface 5/5; cert. #4166130-001.

Provenance: Lord Marcovan's "Eclectic Box Collection", Colosseo Collection, 3/2014. Previously Harlan J. Berk Sale #186, Lot 90; ex-Philip Davis collection.

Believed to have been struck to pay Cretan mercenaries during the Third Macedonian War, in imitation of Rhodian issues, which they would have been familiar.

 

I actually ran across it while reading a book on ancient greek coins by Rynearson. I've also seen it referenced in a couple other books I recently bought and have been reading. Here's a stack of books I just bought from Spink. It's also referenced in one of those books. The decimal coinage was supposed to be pre-decimal and the coloring book is for our baby when hes older. Gotta get 'em started early!

 

The Sitichoro Hoard aka the Larissa Hoard, contained the last type of Athens OLD STYLE before the New Style-the ones with symbols on which are v v v rare. I doubt if anyone on CT has an example.

 

Here it is. Looks like this plate only shows a single coin of each type found in the hoard.

 

Go and find Ashton's work which published them properly!

I cannot find it anywhere!

 

I'm not going to argue with you. I'm just telling you based on what I've read in multiple books, and also the pictures you posted, the coin I posted is exactly described in the hoard.

 

It sure is! I'm surprised Lord Marcovan let it go.