Potential 1913 liberty nickel real or counterfeit?

Not when there is a 100% known mintage of a certain coin and all of them are known to still exist and that exact number has been accounted for. There are only a few coins that meet this criteria, and this is one of them.

If it's not one of these, it's not a real 1913 Liberty Head Nickel:

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A 1913 for $2.25 what a bargain , I mean a could be 1913 .
rzage

 

good chance to leave neg./neut. feedback a comment about the watching the wording of his auctions.

 

I think mine looks better than Abons.................. John

 

Yep, a much better fake than this one lol...

Though I wouldn't go far as to call the coin in this listing a "fake" in the sense that I don't think anyone was ever trying to make it look like a 1913 nickel. I think it's just a genuine 1911 or 1912 and SGS is trying to take advantage of the supposed uncertainty that it's potentially a 1913 (and that whoever sent it to NGC believed it might be too). I think it's a scam that they're trying to even hint at the possibility of being a 1913... but I don't think the coin was altered to look like a 1913. If it was, they didn't do a very good job. What's the point of faking something if it doesn't clearly resemble what you're trying to pass it off as?

 

If you take his ultra high MS67 image, do a negative on the image. It's quite undeniable that it's a 1912 instead of 1913.

 

I love the question and answer section of these auctions:

Q: Will the winning bidder receive all paperwork and the empty SGS slabs as part of the auction? thank you. Nov-09-08
A: Hi, Yes as that is the neat part of this as you will get ALL PAPERWORK!!!! This could even be a 1913 and if I were you I would sent this to Several other grading companies. The Abon

Yeah, you can clearly see its not a 1913 when you do that.

 

That's a nice fake. Do you know how it was made?

Bruce

 

Looks like a 1910 to me. :kewl: The last digit has a inner loop, which would make it a zero.

I can't believe even SGS would stoop that low? :goof:

Ribbit

 

don't yah love ebay

 

Could you give us a closeup of the date .
rzage

 

You mean sleazebay , don't you ?
rzage:whistle:

 

It sold for a little under $20

 

The sad thing is that is probably 20x it's value.

 

Much like a car, paperwork did help in the value. Maybe.

Then again, if I had known about this earlier, i'd put in a $20 bid, only because it would be a great conversation piece.

 

you'll probably get your chance again. The buyer will no doubt want a return and the coin will be relisted.

 

Fat chance. Still was lulz worthy thought. Gotta wonder how much in grading fees was wasted on the coin to both SGS and NGC.

 

SGS fees were nothing. It was SGS who sent it to NGC to begin with if I am reading the submission paper correctly.

Nice ploy at marketing and its paying off once again for this guy.

While I don't agree with his slabbing company or business practices, You have to admit he is a whiz at marketing and deception. Wonder if he is a reincarnation of Houdini.

 

This picture is rather decieving. After staring at it for way too long, I'm also convinced it is in fact a 1911. Fancy light and camera work. How much total time do you think everyone spent gazing at this cull?

 

Sorry, I don't know how or why, for that matter, it was done. A friend sent it to me and the dealer that he got it from believes it was born as a 1910. Pretty cool nickel though............John