Grade Opinions on these tough to Grade Lincolns

Im pretty certain I have the grades right on these, but these are tough ones. So, I would like to ask for the opinions of the experts here on CoinTalk.

The 1919S, is loaded with luster, and shows no wear. It does have a nice crisp strike, but if you notice, what happened to IN GOD WE TRUST, and AMERICA, and how would that affect the grade and value??? Anyhow, what would YOU grade this and what would YOU say the approximate value is???




Now, the 1924S, known for mushy details. This one deffinately has a mushy obverse, but I see no wear. This one also has the same problems that the 1919S has, in America, but thats common on all the Wheaties. Its a tough spot for the metal to flow, where so much is needed in Lincolns coat on the obverse side. Anyhow, what would YOU grade this one, and what would YOU consider the approximate value to be???

 

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24 s has wear on the top of his hear, aka the highest point

 

I agree with GD, very nice coins! AU 24 s's are always in demand.

 

A pair of choice AU's !!

The 19-S is a very common coin, trade at said levels, the 24-S that nice will trade at +ish........

 

AU-58 on the '19-S you can see a color change on the jawline and along the cheek , when you see the color change like that it is usually wear . T he '24 -S is even more worn AU-53 , still very nice coins I would like to own .
rzage

 

Great, thank you for the opinions. I did see the wear on the 24S, but I guess I screwed up while typing my description. I was calling the 19s, AU58 and the 24s, AU50. So I am inline with the opinions recieved. But these ones are tricky, and I tend to second guess myself. Im also not too sure how IN GOD WE TRUST, affects the grade and value of the 19s. But thank you for the help.

 

I don't think that your 1919-S will make 58, but it might. However, I go with the 55.

You comments on the 24-S make no sense. If there is no wear, then it is uncirculated. That one obviously (to me, anyway) has wear. And, although a weaker strike that the 19-S, that is a very nice strike for a 24-S. I would call it 53 and and would guess that it is about 50/50 that I would go 55 in hand

 

Here I am, the tough guy again.
I'm thinking XF-45 on both.
I'd really like to see some mint red on an AU coin, but, yes, I know it's not absolutely necessary.

 

MS-60 on the 19-S. No wear showing but weak/damaged details on the mottoes and portrait.

AU-50 on the 24-S. Light wear on the collar, bow tie and lapel and damage on the mottoes.

BTW, the area opposite the CENTS is Lincoln's head/hair, not his coat.

 

Are you sure you don't want to think about that again. They are pictured that way, but the coin has been flipped 180 for the pictures. The "CENTS" is directly opposite the coat.

 

Perhaps it's just the photos, but I think both coins' surfaces have been manipulated.

I'd grade the 19-s AU details, altered surfaces, net XF.

I'd grade the 24-s XF details, altered surfaces, net VF.

Sorry to be debbie downer here and I certainly hope I'm wrong.

 

With the obverse facing you, hold a cent between your thumb at 9 o'clock and your index finger at 3 o'clock. Now rotate the coin so that Lincoln's portrait is upside down with his head pointed down. The reverse will be facing you with the CENTS at the bottom - opposite Lincoln's head.

 

Nice coins Dan. You are the keeper of some mighty fine Lincolns.
As far as the CENTS issue here- The word is CENT without the S.

 

Au55 & Xf45

My opinion of the 19S photo is AU55 because it has rub on the high points, includes much luster but no red. My opinion of the 24S is XF45 because it has light overall wear on a typical strike & includes no luster. Both coins are nice. I would be glad to store them for you in my Dansco album.

Very best regards,
collect89

 

Not on any cent I own. Just look at you signature pic. "CENT" is in the top half of the reverse which, as you just pointed out, if the bottom half of the obverse. Bottom half of the obverse is the coat, not the head.

 

DJP7x0s,
Just for clarification, is that red I am seeing below the coat and above his head on the 24-S?

 

Apparently we're both wrong here.

My statement that CENTS is opposite Lincoln's head is incorrect. Cents is in the middle of the reverse, opposite Lincoln's collar, neck and chin on the obverse.

Your statement that AMERICA is opposite Lincoln's coat is incorrect. AMERICA is at the bottom of the reverse, which is the top of the obverse (Lincoln's head).

Don't look at a picture; pick up an actual penny in hand and look at it.

 

Nope, no red, just brown.

 

I would say Xf 40 on the 19s, and VF 30 on the 24s These coins can't be Au , because there is no mint luster left.

Jazzcoins Joe:whistle: