Value of this ancient coin?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Lyricfive, May 20, 2020.

  1. Lyricfive

    Lyricfive Active Member

    John I Byzantine 969 AD.

    Any experts out there can tell me what this one is worth? Thanks.
     

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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Looks like a replica IMHO

    Original sell for $40.00 - $45.00
     
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  4. Lyricfive

    Lyricfive Active Member

    I believe it to be genuine. My stepfather was a coin dealer. This was in a coin envelope. He would have typically written "replica" if it were one.
     
  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Original sell for $40.00 - $45.00
     
  6. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Here is my Anonymous Follis attributed to John I, Tzimisces. I need to get better pictures:
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  7. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    I've sold dozens like it in the $20 to $50 range.
     
  8. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Is your photo distorted or is the coin really that oval? Flans can be oval but your dotted border looks oval also which would be unusual.
     
  9. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    That is an astute observation ;). Hopefully the coin isn't as oval as the photo :smuggrin:. As Doug noted, the borders should be round regardless of the flan shape or centering of the die impressions.

    AE Nummus AD 967-1065 AWK.jpg
     
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  10. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

    WOW! AL Kowsky. Perfect.
     
  11. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    PeterB, Thanks, that follis is about as nice as you'll find. It cost me more than the $40.00/45.00 range :smuggrin:.

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  12. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

    Like 10-15 times more.... I would guess. :)
     
  13. Lyricfive

    Lyricfive Active Member

    It is not a distorted photo. The coin is most definitely oval. I guess it would be a replica huh?
     
  14. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Lyricfive, I wouldn't bet the farm on this follis being genuine. These coins are so plentiful it's hard to believe there would be counterfeits of them, but anything is possible.... Compare your coin to a few more type A2 folles.

    Coin Talk follis, Lyricfive.jpg
    A3 follis, CT, Caesar_Augustus, 9.69 gm.jpg A2 Follis, 11.70 gm..jpg image97539.jpg sb1813.6.jpg sb1813.7.jpg
     
  15. Herodotus

    Herodotus Well-Known Member

    Maybe it was flattened on a railroad track:smuggrin:
     
  16. AussieCollector

    AussieCollector Moderator Moderator

    It most definitely does not look right to me. But it could be due to the flattening of the very bold lettering

    And as @Al Kowsky points out, why would you?
     
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