1853 A&R 25c CircCam newp- I shall call her "Black Beauty"

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  1. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Thanks, @CircCam!

    Mmm. Dark n' crusty in all the right ways, if you ask me. Common date, modest grade, but still... sweet.

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    Guess the grade if you like. After you post your guess, you may peek at the cert page here for the answer.
     
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  3. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    EF-45 Beautiful coin.
    Die crack 7-8 o'clock on reverse.
     
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  4. bradgator2

    bradgator2 Well-Known Member

    Sa-weet.

    XF40
     
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  5. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I would have graded it VF-30. It is a bit too dark for my tastes.
     
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  6. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    I am jealous! I been on a hunt for some eye appealing rays & arrows stuff. Nice pick!
     
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  7. Penna_Boy

    Penna_Boy Just a nobody from the past

    Very nice Lord M. A coin with unknown history attached. I want one!
     
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  8. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Nice vf35
     
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  9. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Love the look of it. It's amusing you get one & I got one about the same time. My first new U.S. coin in over 10 years.

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  10. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I really prefer to avoid the term "black beauty" because that's a marketing term that scammers have invented to convince people to buy their heavily corroded dark black ugly coins.

    Yours is not a "black beauty."

    Yours is a very attractive original CircCam. And I like it.
     
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  11. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    Nice! Guessing 35
     
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  12. buckeye73

    buckeye73 Well-Known Member

    I’m at VF 30, but TPG grade guess VF 35. It seems my recent grades have been a tad low using PCGS Photograde as a reference.
    Nice coin worthy of TPG grading.

    Edit: Hit a home run on the TPG grade!
     
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  13. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Granted, coins this dark are not for everyone. As long as the contrast is there, though, I'm all aboard.

    But without the contrast? Coal black or battleship gray? Mottled brown or anything mottled? Fuhgeddaboutit! I run away from those just as fast as anybody else, or grab my jar of dip.

    Thanks. Duly noted. "Graceful Grey"? Hmm. I'll have to work on it.
     
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  14. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    Quite a nice coin. The dark, clean fields just help the contrast with the devices and don't detract at all IMHO. I'd call it 40-45 depending on who's doing the grading.
     
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  15. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Love the contrast that the dark fields allow the devises to show. Nice pick up.
     
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  16. brokrken

    brokrken Active Member

    Love it. A really nice coin.
     
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  17. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    i would hazard a guess at xf-45..that is what i would grade it as if it were mine...
     
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  18. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    wow, way off....woops
     
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  19. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    You can get the contrast if the coin gets a little wear. As for dipping black silver coins, forget it. A little wear is better. You stand a strong chance of turing them into a real piece of junk.
     
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  20. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    True. They don't dip well at all once they develop a thick "skin". I learned that the hard way. I was speaking mostly metaphorically.
     
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  21. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I do think is has pretensions at XF40, and is right on the cusp of that, at least. So you really weren't that far off.
     
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