New additions to the clembo collection

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by clembo, Oct 31, 2008.

  1. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind

    What? Not Two Cent Pieces?

    Nope I'm woefully low on Seated Coinage but I always like the 1853 quarter and half with rays and arrows. Well guess what walked in the door on Tuesday at work.
    A matching set and now part of the clembo collection.
    Not rare but an interesting one year type coin.

    http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x275/clembo1872/scan0016-2.jpg
    http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x275/clembo1872/scan0017-1.jpg

    http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x275/clembo1872/scan0018-3.jpg
    http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x275/clembo1872/scan0019-1.jpg

    I've seen a few of the quarters at work but always harshly cleaned. First half I've seen since I've been there and both are "good and dirty".

    Hope you like them.

    clembo
     
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  3. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    CONGRATS! I too find these two coins extremely attractive and hope to one day own a nice example of each. Great addition to the collection.
     
  4. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Nice coins!
     
  5. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Congrats Clembo!
     
  6. Indianhead65

    Indianhead65 Well-Known Member

    Nice coins Clembo!! Congrats on the purchase!!!
     
  7. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    Nice work ! Interesting design. Gotta love those rays around the eagle. :thumb:

    I was scouting some in the latest Heritage auction, but didn't "pull the trigger".
     
  8. Catbert

    Catbert Evil Cat

    Bravo Dan! :hail:
     
  9. coleguy

    coleguy Coin Collector

    Nice coins, clembo! I've always liked the Seated quarter with rays design. Wonder why they didn't stick with that look?
    Guy~
     
  10. Indianhead65

    Indianhead65 Well-Known Member

    The Rays were placed on the reverse to signify a reduction of weight in 1853. Part of that production year and before had a weight of 103.1 grains. The rest of 1853 and after had a weight of 96 grains. I guess they figured that they didnt need the rays on the reverse after the weight was reduced. Thats my honest opinion.
     
  11. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    You have two great coins there.
     
  12. coleguy

    coleguy Coin Collector

    I always thought that's what the arrows on the obverse represented.
    Guy~
     
  13. snaz

    snaz Registry fever

    Very Nice additions Clembo!
     
  14. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    What I have read explained it this way:

    When the price of silver rose to the point that the silver in 90% silver coins was worth more than the face value of the coins entrepreneurs melted the coins for a profit. The US Mint reduced the silver content of 90% silver coins so the silver content no longer exceeded the face value of the coins. Arrows and rays were added so the reduced-weight coins could be easily distinguished from their heavier predecessors making it easy for the public to identify the reduced-silver (and for bank tellers to remove the pre-weight-reduction coins from circulation for recoining). The reverse rays were removed after only one year because of difficulties in preparing the dies with rays.

    Between the bank tellers and the entrepreneurs it did not take long before nearly all the earlier coins were removed from circulation making the remaining distinguishing marks (arrows) unneeded. So in 1856 the arrows were removed (only to return in 1873 & '74 to signify an increase in weight).
     
  15. Indianhead65

    Indianhead65 Well-Known Member

  16. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    So them it is the non-rayed heavy coins which are scarce.

    Ruben
     
  17. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Huh?

    The Rays and Arrows appeared together on the first reduced-weight quarters and halves. All previous pre-weight-reduction issues did not have Rays OR Arrows.
     
  18. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Right, but once they removed the non-rayed heavier coins for recoining and after the big melt, I'd guess that the heavier coins (non-rayed) became scarce to collectors. I'm asking, not telling you

    Ruben
     
  19. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    I would speculate that not all pre-reduction coins were melted. I'm sure many of those coins were hoarded and survived.
     
  20. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper

    Nice pick-up's Clembo!

    RickieB
     
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