Guess the grade... 1910-D Eagle

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by ranchhand, Oct 30, 2008.

  1. ranchhand

    ranchhand Coin Hoarder

    This is one of my latest acquisitions. Man i hate it when gold goes through the roof and everyone starts acting like loons. it makes buying gold coins harder. sigh.
    Had to get this one, as it "spoke" to me (if you know what i mean)
    Guess the grade, win my admiration ;)
     

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  3. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Pretty coin. 63.
     
  4. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    Assuming most of the "nasty" marks I'm seeing are on the slab and not the coin, I'd go with something like AU-55.
    I'm basing that on what appears to be wear on the curl above the indian's eye, and the "shoulder" of the left wing.
    Of course that could be the strike.
     
  5. tcore

    tcore Coin Collector

    Tough coins to grade, but I'll say AU55 as well.
     
  6. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Nice looking coin, I'll guess AU-55
     
  7. ranchhand

    ranchhand Coin Hoarder

    very close... AU-58
    Paid close melt value for it as well :)
    I will always take an AU-58 over a low MS coin.
    Most of the marks are on the holder, its a nice coin. common date, but eh... its gold :)
     
  8. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I'd say AU-55 , if those lines are on the slab not the coin .
    rzage
     
  9. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Guess I should of read the posts first :eek: .
    rzage:D
     
  10. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    That's a very nice 58. Congrats!
     
  11. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    You betcha. Gotta love this design.

    "Common date" sort of. Could be worse; I think of these as "2nd tier" common date... i.e. slightly better date.

    The ultimate common dates are '32 and '26 (in that order).

    If we use NGC census as an indicator, we find that NGC has slabbed more than 58,000 of those two dates - more than all other $10 Indians combined.

    The '10-D is the third most common, with ~7,800 in NGC slabs... compared to more than 34,000 1932s - more than 4 times as many as your '10-D !
     
  12. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    Not to be abrupt but... who graded it AU-58? You never said whether or not this coin is slabbed.

    I have to say that I would disagree, but I'd like to know with whom I am disagreeing first.
     
  13. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Hey Mike, what would you grade the coin? Just wondering...The Other Mike
     
  14. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    I would say AU-53. I don't think that the coin is very sharply struck. The central devices show a slight bit of rub, the hair on the obverse under Liberty is weakly struck and the feathers at 3:30 - 4:00 are also weakly struck.

    IMHO, sharpness of strike is what seperates a 58 from a 53. While we agree that the coin is indeed AU, I think we disagree on how well the coin exhibits strike characteristics. Gold being a relatively soft metal, I expect better than average strike on gold coins.
     
  15. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Please don't take this the wrong way, but I'd bet you don't look at many Indian Eagles. Despite the soft metal, these coins are notorious for weak strikes in the areas you mention, and this is even more true for the Denver minted coins in my experience. To be honest, this coin looks pretty well struck compared to the other 10-d's, despite its obvious strike shortcomings.

    I would also disagree with your overall assessment of how strike would be factored into grade at the AU level, but I also recognize your right to grade coins however you see fit. :)

    Respectfully...Mike
     
  16. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    p.s. all of this from the guy that graded the 58 coin 63, so take it for what it's worth. :)
     
  17. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I'm going to say AU-55. I'm not that knowledgeable about these...but it looks like it has a touch of wear to me.
     
  18. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I agree they adjusted the pressure depending on the metal being struck , if they used the same pressure for all metals , gold would be the best struck , with steel cents the worst , I think they were more cocerned with the dies lasting . IMO
    rzage:D
     
  19. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    "I will always take an AU-58 over a low MS coin."

    My strategy too!
     
  20. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    mike, we are all entitled to our opinons, whether they be right or wrong. I merely asked who graded this coin as AU-58, and I still don't know who
     
  21. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    BTW, Mike... just to let you know that I am not offended at all by this discussion, I am rather enjoying it.

    I am curious, however to exactly what in your opinion seperates a 53 from a 58. If not the depth and quality of strike, then what?
     
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