"Using my awful photos, guess the grade of a coin that I haven't sent in for grading yet, imprisoned in a 2x2, that I'm too lazy to spend several seconds removing and re-holdering, and if your guess is too low I'll call you names."
I think it is MS or PR 60. Look at the spots! If you think it's worth something, send it to NCS to be conserved and then have it graded by NGC. That's my suggestion, anyway.
I only said xf40 only because I had a feeling where the thread was going.. au...yes!! Ms...nope.... matted proof... only in your head.. O and am I drunk?? Not yet....