Guess The Grade, Of Sorts...#1

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Phoenix21, Oct 28, 2008.

  1. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Just thought I'd post this, might post a few of these today, here's a "sort of" guess the grade. The coin I'm going to post isn't graded by anyone, so it really is left up to you. I'll post my opinion on it later. Here is the coin:

    Phoenix :cool:
     

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  3. walterallen

    walterallen Coin Collector

    I will say MS65 RB, I know "middle of the road". The pics are to reflective and angled to get any more accurate then this.

    I do like this coin though. Very Nice!!!

    Thanks for sharing.

    Allen
     
  4. coleguy

    coleguy Coin Collector

    AU RB. The obverse may just be poorly struck, but it doesn't look as nice as the reverse.
    Guy~
     
  5. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Nice, clean, well struck coin, but what happened on his beard? If that is as bad as it looks, it may not even get graded.
     
  6. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    more guess than opinion

    Mint State 63 Brown? It’s more of a guess than an opinion of the grade.
    Very best regards,
    collect89
     
  7. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    If you'll pardon me for saying so, Phoenix, it's a little hard to make out some of the finer details, based on these pics, but he does look a little "smooth shaved" around the beard. So I'm going to switch gears from what I think it will grade to what I'd hold out for if this were mine. $25. I just agree with Allen; I like it that much. :high5:
     
  8. stainless

    stainless ANTONINIVS

    AU-55


    stainless
     
  9. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    The beard details are typically missing for Lincolns minted from the late twenties on. Most years you would not even know he had a beard. As for the "weak strike", this coin has more detail than my certified MS67. With what appears to be NO chatter on the shoulder, it is a very well struck coin. I just do not know what to make of that hole in his beard.
     
  10. asciibaron

    asciibaron /dev/work/null

    MS65 RD - very nice coin.

    -Steve
     
  11. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    My guess is just choice BU, provide it is original. Pic are difficult, but I suspect some unnatural color to the coin.

    When the TPG's grade these, they do not like marks on the reverse lettering and the obverse shoulder. Thats why gems are so tough
     
  12. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    That's just the dimple variety. :D

    I meant to say $25 and up. The lighting makes it hard to zero-in.
     
  13. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the replies, I missed the mark on Lincoln's beard, but here are some more pics I have at different angles:

    Phoenix :cool:
     

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  14. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Having the coin in hand...

    Here's what I tell from the coin in hand:

    It's a beautiful example, has a nice autumn appearance to it, IMHO. The color seems natural, no problems, the luster is a little on the dull side, but still decent. The mark on the beard that rlm noticed, for some reason is just very visible in pics, (probably from the angle I shot it at those times, it captured it just right), but in hand it is not noticable really, unless you know it's there. I had to actually look for it, lol. But it is a nice coin. I can get more pictures if you guys would like, to be honest, the color is more intense in the pics, than the coin in hand at the moment (but I am looking at it under natural light.)

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  15. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Excluding the mark, I believe that coin would have a shot at 67 RB. However, the mark is there. Actually, it is very similar to my 29-D both in overall quality and where the mark is save you mark is larger. I have been told my 29-D would go 64/3 (Doug) and 65/4 by most others, so I will guess yours is a 64 RB.
     
  16. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    I'd say MS-64 R/B is about right on, MS-65 R/B a good possibility. In hand, the luster isn't there unfortunatly for it to go a MS-67, (even if the mark wasn't there) but it is still a nice coin IMHO. :) BTW, can a coin that is R/B go MS-67? I thought that for it to be a 67 it had to be a Red coin?

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  17. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Of the MS67 Lincolns Heritage has sold, here is the break out:
    BN (7) RB (40) RD (8,404)
     
  18. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    OK, it has more luster than I first thought. And that nice, warm toning (even when I lighten the saturation in my photo-suite), I'm going to say, is a grade-lifter. MS-65 all day long. TPG-66 with that toning. If RLM is right, it's strike-distinguishable (which I'm still having trouble making out...but then, I haven't been able to find one of these on Heritage to compare), it only goes higher. Now watch, after I said all that, you have it graded XF. :D
     
  19. alpha480v

    alpha480v Senior Member

    MS-64 R/B. Nice coin!
     
  20. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    My first impressions were :
    1. pretty coin
    2. why no beard detail ?
    3. chatter on ON of ONE on reverse
    I'm assuming the missing beard detail is due to worn dies or poor strike. Judging by the luster, it looks like a mint state coin. I'm thinking MS63RB.

    If that missing beard detail is rub, I think it would go AU55, maybe 58.
     
  21. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I would say 64rb - nice coin by the way. As noted the marks on the reverse lettering is what attracked my attention and for my grade. Still a nice coin.
     
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