1875-S Trade Dollar

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  1. ryanbrooks

    ryanbrooks Active Member

    Hello everyone! :D

    I was just looking around when I saw this beautiful trade dollar. Everything looks nice with great details. But a friend of mine pointed out that the denticles on the coin look a little weak, especailly on the obverse near the bottom? Why would that be? Thanks!

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  3. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    Imperfection in strike, perhaps ?

    If the dies weren't perfectly aligned (i.e. flat fields perfectly parallel), one portion of the coin would be softer struck.

    I would think that commonly affects both obverse and reverse, but maybe not; maybe the side on the stationary lower (anvil ?) die would be more even than the side struck by the moving upper die, which would take the brunt of the imperfect strike.

    Is the reverse die usually on the bottom ?

    Overall, the coin doesn't look counterfeit but these Trade $1s are the worst. Be very careful.
     
  4. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Nice looking Trade Dollar , how does the 3rd side look , rim ? The week denticles could just be a week strike , But check everything you can weight , diam. should be 1.5" .
    rzage:)
     
  5. FreakyGarrettC

    FreakyGarrettC Wise young snail

    What is it 900. Fine of?
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It means it's .900 fine silver.
     
  7. FreakyGarrettC

    FreakyGarrettC Wise young snail

    Thanks. :smile
    One more question, what is a trade dollar.
     
  8. Freddypm

    Freddypm Member


    Trade Dollars were created to make trading easier with countries in the Far East like China in the 1800's. They had a similar weight of 90% silver as coins that were used in china at that time.
     
  9. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

  10. FreakyGarrettC

    FreakyGarrettC Wise young snail

  11. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    I believe it is an artifact of scanning. Note that the dentils look a bit faint both at 12 and 6. I have seen it many times on scanned images of these. I can't explain why it happens, but it does. I don't see anything about this coin that screams "fake!" and if genuine it is high grade and very likely MS. Nonetheless, all the usual caveats about buying TD's apply: research seller, email them and extract ironclad guarantee of authenticity,etc.
     
  12. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    The eagles on the Trade dollars and Twenty cent piece are amazing in their similarity , I know William Barber designed both pieces wonder why he didn't use the exact same eagle on each .
    rzage
     
  13. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Can you tell if this is the same die pairing as used on my TD .
    rzage:)
     
  14. FreakyGarrettC

    FreakyGarrettC Wise young snail

    I think we need to get cool coins back into circulation.
     
  15. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    I'll take a look this weekend- g'night everybody.
     
  16. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Why didn't Gobrecht use the same seated Liberty design on the obverses?
     
  17. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    That is a VERY nice trade dollar. For a series known for ugly, unoriginal examples, that coin is anything but. If I didn't already have one, I'd jump all over it....Mike
     
  18. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    p.s. I think the denitcles being weak is just a problem with the scan, and nothing more worrisome than that.
     
  19. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Hey Rusty, your TD has a "micro-s" mintmark, not the same as this one at all. I just looked in Breen, he lists yours as "Type-II rev, Minute S, very rare." Breen 5795. Now, Breen generally has to be taken with a grain of salt, but your coin is not your average 1875-s TD by any means. (I just bought an average one myself, has some cool chopmarks).
     
  20. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Thanks Doc. so I guess it's not a fake after all , kool , thanks for all your research , what book is the best in your opinion for Trade dollars ?
    rzage:smile
     
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