Stoicism in a time of pandemic: how Marcus Aurelius can help

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by robinjojo, Apr 25, 2020.

  1. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    As the covid-19 pandemic proceeds, along with all of the known unknowns and unknown unknowns, and daily reports of cases and deaths, I came across this interesting article on Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, and his seminal work on stoicism, Meditations, and how his teachings could help help us cope in times of pandemic.

    Here's a link to the article:

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2...c-coronavirus-marcus-aurelius-the-meditations

    Bust of Marcus Aurelius.jpg

    Marcus Aurelius Sestertius, 29.79 grams, Roma E-Sale 65 purchase.jpg

    Marcus Aurelius Æ Sestertius. Rome, AD 163. M AVREL ANTONINVS AVG ARMENIACVS P M, laureate bust right / TR POT XX [IMP III CO]S III, Providentia standing facing, head left, holding wand and sceptre, globe at feet; S-C across fields. RIC 923; C.805; BMCRE 1279. 29.79g, 33mm, 6h.

    This sestertius was issued two years before the start of the Antonine Plague of 165 to 180 AD. Marcus Aurelius died in 180 AD, probably due to the plague.
     
  2. Avatar

    Guest User Guest



    to hide this ad.
  3. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Thanks for sharing that article, @robinjojo . And very nice coin!

    I have lots of family in Italy. Italy could sure use some restoration right now!

    [​IMG]
    Marcus Aurelius, AD 161-180.
    Roman orichalcum sestertius, 21.36 g, 29.5 mm, 12 h.
    Rome, AD 173.
    Obv: M ANTONINVS AVG TR P XXVII, head of Marcus Aurelius, laureate, right.
    Rev: RESTITVTORI ITALIAE IMP VI COS III, Marcus Aurelius, in military dress, standing left, holding vertical spear in left hand and clasping right hands with Italia kneeling right before him, holding globe in left hand; SC in exergue.
    Refs: RIC 1077; BMCRE 1449-1450; Cohen 538; RCV 4997; MIR 259.
     
    zumbly, Marsyas Mike, TheRed and 14 others like this.
  4. Spaniard

    Spaniard Well-Known Member

    Interesting article thanks...
    marc.jpg
    Marcus Aurelius. AD 161-180. Æ Sestertius. Rome mint. Struck AD 171...(32mm, 24.68 g)
    Obv. Laureate, draped head right, IMP M ANTONINVS AVG TRP XXV
    Rev. Fides standing left, holding Victory and standard, FIDES EXERCITVVM COS III SC
    RIC III 997

    Marcus Aurelius denarius.Rome AD 161-162....18mm....2.55gr
    Obverse....IMP M AVREL ANTONINVS AVG, bare head right
    Reverse... PROV DEOR TR P XVI COS III, Providentia standing facing, head left, holding globe and cornucopiae.
    RIC#50 RSC 519.
     
    zumbly, Marsyas Mike, TheRed and 9 others like this.
  5. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Similar sestertius with obverse bust - RIC1079
    rc2285bb3033.jpg
     
    zumbly, Marsyas Mike, TheRed and 9 others like this.
  6. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    I am a member of the dailystoic.com - a site that sends out daily thoughts via email based on Stoicism - frequently referring to Marcus Aurelius, Epictetus, and Seneca.
     
    JulesUK, ominus1, DonnaML and 3 others like this.
  7. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Too funny, @robinjojo . Fun coincidence. Been reading Meditations myself, for perhaps the severalth time, and read that article a couple days ago also.

    upload_2020-4-25_15-8-53.png
    RI MARCUS AURELIUS AR Den as Caesar TR POT VI COS II - Genius stg at altar hldg standard EX: FSR


    Pocket-piece
    upload_2020-4-25_15-10-5.png
    RI Aurelius Marcus 161-180 AE Sestertius S-C


    Real Sestertius vs. those Bogus Sestertii of the Empire
    upload_2020-4-25_15-11-19.png
    RR AR REAL Sestertius 211-208 BCE vs RE AE BOGUS Sestertius Marcus Aurelius 161-180 CE (don't be fooled by copies) :D
     
    zumbly, Marsyas Mike, TheRed and 8 others like this.
  8. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    The Original Stoic, did not matter which Universe:

    upload_2020-4-25_15-16-11.png
     
    JulesUK, Ryro, ominus1 and 4 others like this.
  9. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    Fascinating...
     
    DonnaML, ominus1 and Alegandron like this.
  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    LOL
     
    harrync likes this.
  11. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    shit 002.JPG Marcus Arelius funeral pyre sestertius 005.JPG Marcus Arelius funeral pyre sestertius 004.JPG Marcus Aurelius- Trajan denarii 002.JPG Marcus Aurelius- Trajan denarii 001.JPG
    i too am fond of them both...i have two shirts(showing one) pertaining to our Stoic vulcan on that particular episode(Mirror Mirror)..and Marcus truly earned the title philosopher king..my sestertius(minted by Commodus)isn't really much to lQQk at, but my denarius ain't too shabby..:)
     
  12. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    ominus1 likes this.
  13. cmezner

    cmezner do ut des Supporter

    Then this one must have been issued around the time of the 165 AD plague:

    Æ Sestertius, Rome, December 165 - Summer 166 AD
    29.5 x 31 mm, 26.89 g
    RIC III Marcus Aurelius 914; Banti 41; RCV 4964; MIR 18/130

    Ob.: M AVREL ANTONINVS AVG ARMENIACVS P M Head of Marcus Aurelius, laureate, right
    Reverse: CONGAVG III TR POT XX IMP III COS III S C Marcus Aurelius and Lucius Verus togate, seated on curule chairs on platform, each extending right hand; behind them lictor standing to left; in front of them, attendant standing to left, holding coin-scoop in right hand; below platform, citizen climbing steps to r.

    upload_2020-4-25_23-59-16.png upload_2020-4-26_0-0-7.png
     
    zumbly, PeteB, Marsyas Mike and 7 others like this.
  14. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    He really looks very sick on the obverse of this coin which weighs 9.24 g.
    MarcusAur O.JPG MarcusAulrs R 9.24 g.JPG
     
  15. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the article. I must tell you, however that the philosophy of Stoicism, at least as first proposed by Zeno, has always had a tendency to get people to accept everything that happens to them as part of some design or plan and that not accepting all that comes our way is simply kicking at the goad. Marcus seems to have recognized that not all that happens to us is our fate and that some things that seem irrevocable and unalterable fate are not so and can be changed. I don't believe most Stoics admitted that. Ultimately death claims us all and that ultimate fate will be our end (or beginning, depending on how you view things like one's demise) but there is much in our lives that is not fixed fate and is thus alterable. That is the sort of belief that makes resistance to evil, or calamity as in this virus situation, possible and potentially effective. Had Marcus as emperor not recognized that not all is fate, that some evils could be overcome we all might be speaking a dialect of Marcomanic German. Happiness, or in the case of Stoicism, contentment, will be achievable, only when we realize the distinction between what is unalterable fate (our impending demise) and what is alterable, how we will meet it when it arrives. The coin below is a sestertius of Marcus when he was a young lad and the Caesar of Antoninus Pius and a time when HILARITAS (on the reverse) was still possible. Sear 4802, ca.146 AD
    . IMG_1352[5274]marcus obv..jpg IMG_1353[5272]Marcus rev..jpg
     
    Orange Julius, zumbly, PeteB and 8 others like this.
  16. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Agreed. I like reading Aurelius' Meditations, and have read them several times (reading it again as we speak.) I agree that his personal slant brings a "better" interpretation than original Stoics.

    But, ummm... isn't ENGLISH a German derivative language? :D
     
    robinjojo and kevin McGonigal like this.
  17. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    Yes, but the Anglisc version is infinitely more euphonic, as anyone who watches Masterpiece Theater will attest.
     
    Alegandron likes this.
  18. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    LOL, TRUE! However, I spent many years in Wales listening to their very guttural language... I became very fond of it. Tried learning it. Failed miserably. One of my co-worker's wife taught it in school, and both of my Kids learned it as it was compulsory in Welsh schools. :)
     
    kevin McGonigal likes this.
  19. Marsman

    Marsman Well-Known Member

    Same sestertius as OP :)
    Thanks for the link !

    F21A3F28-6A19-4A80-B032-B8DF9A1C8D46.png

    Marcus Aurelius
    Marcus Aurelius, sestertius
    32 mm, 25.66 g, Rome
    Obv. M AVREL ANTONINVS AVG ARMENIACVS P M, head of Marcus Aurelius, laureate, right
    Rev. TR POT XX IMP III COS III S C, Providentia, draped, standing left, pointing wand in right hand at globe at her feet and holding vertical sceptre in left hand
    RIC III 923.
     
    Spaniard, zumbly, PeteB and 7 others like this.
  20. Hamilcar Barca

    Hamilcar Barca Well-Known Member

    A wonderful post. I have studied Stoicism and try to learn its principles. I have recently read "How To Think Like A Roman Emperor" by Donald Robertson. An exemplary book examining Stoicism through the life of Marcus Aurelius. Highly recommended. I do believe much unhappiness in life is caused by the desire to acquire.
    But I don't go overboard. I exempt the acquisition of ancient coins from this philosophy.
     
  21. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    Avarice in the acquisition numismatic coinage is no vice, but rather a benediction to posterity.
     
Draft saved Draft deleted

Share This Page