Mixed Lot of Errors #18 - Comments?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by StevenHarden, Apr 25, 2020.

  1. StevenHarden

    StevenHarden Well-Known Member

    Hello All,

    Here is another small group of error coins I wanted to post on here to see if anyone has any comments on the type of error, rarity, value, whether it's worth it to be graded, etc. As always, any comments are greatly appreciated and any discussion is encouraged.

    NOTE #1: Error #79 is a U.S. 1976D Bicentennial Quarter that appears to be an off-center strike. Weight is ~5.6 grams.
    NOTE #2: Error #80 is a U.S. 1976P Bicentennial Half that appears to be an off-center strike. There appears to be some time of break in the reeding between 6:00 and 9:00 as viewed on the reverse close-up photo. Also note what looks to be wheel marks on the obverse above the eye, on the upper forehead, front of hair, and between the forehead and "I" in "LIBERTY". Weight is ~11.3 grams.
    NOTE #3: Error #81 is a U.S. 1976P Bicentennial Half still sealed in the original mint set packaging. There appears to be a reverse cud die break near the rim at 2:00. This seems to match well with examples #CU-50c-1776/1976-01R and #CU-50c-1776/1976-04R per the following website: http://cuds-on-coins.com/kennedy-half-cuds-1964-present/

    Now to the coins.....
    ERROR #79
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    Error79c.JPG
    ERROR #80
    Error80a.JPG
    Error80b.JPG
    Error80c.JPG
    Error80d.JPG
    ERROR #81
    Error81a.JPG
    Error81b.JPG
    Error81c.JPG

    THANK YOU.

    Tagging: @Seattlite86

    NOTE: IF ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO BE TAGGED, LET ME KNOW.
     
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  3. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    Nice coins. It looks like you've called them all correctly. On # 2 I don't get the "wheel" marks. On # 3 I do see the cud.

    Like I said, it looks like you've got them all called out.

    I couldn't give you any values since I've never sold any thing similar, and I've learned not to try to tell someone else what their coins are worth.
     
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  4. paddyman98

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  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    #80
    Or maybe this one..
    Here is mine from my collection -
    rdba.JPG rdbe.JPG
     
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  6. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    The first 1976 half dollar is more properly referred to as an uncentered broadstrike.
     
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  7. StevenHarden

    StevenHarden Well-Known Member

    @Hookman
    @paddyman98
    @mikediamond

    Thank you all for your replies.

    I believe we have came to an agreement on what error types these are, but I am still curious about what value might be given for these pieces. I did find out some information on values as shown below.

    For #79, I see similar 15% off-center strikes sell for $69-$109-$125.
    (Heritage Auctions & Sullivan Numismatics)

    For #80, I can't seem to find any sales related to uncentered broadstrike bicentennial half dollars. As a point of reference, the 2018 Red Book shows a Bicentennial 50c broadstrike with a value of $95

    For #81, I found one example on Heritage Auctions that matches the coin that @paddyman98 posted above. That page shows that it sold for $35.
    https://coins.ha.com/itm/errors/197...-Inventory-BuyNowFromOwner-ThisAuction-120115

    If anyone would like to comment on the values above or what they believe the examples I originally posted might be valued at, please do so. I understand that these values are only a guide and that the actual value will ultimately be determined at the point of sale given individual demand and the overall market. Even so, having a general idea of a value will help to sort these into the necessary categories for future sale.

    As always, I appreciate all of the comments and replies on here. I will be posting a new thread with another lot of errors soon. I welcome everyone to view/reply to that thread. If anyone has any other comments regarding this thread, feel free to reply.

    Thank You.
     
  8. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    #79 exhibits some cupping, in my opinion: http://www.error-ref.com/cupped-off-center-strike/
    #80 seems to be broad struck instead of Off-center. As to the part that you described as a break in reeding, this could he way off base, but it looks like reeding that got struck, but then shaved/pushed over as the metal expanded beyond the collar. I'm not certain if such a thing can happen, but I would wager it isn't a die break.
    #81 appears to be a nice cud
     
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  9. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    Thanks for pointing that out. That's a new one on me. I would have missed those when looking at a coin, and probably already have many times.

    " I learn something new every day.".

    After looking again, I see sort of parallel, vertical marks running between his eyebrow and his hairline.

    Are those the wheel marks? And those can cause a details grade. WoW.

    BTW, that link went into my "Coin Tools" folder. Thanks.
     
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  10. StevenHarden

    StevenHarden Well-Known Member

    @Seattlite86
    @Hookman

    Thank you for your replies.

    #79 does appear to show cupping to the extent of about 10-15 degrees from the horizontal.

    #80 is, as @mikediamond stated, an uncentered broadstrike instead of struck off-center. As for "a break in the reeding", I believe I chose a poor use of words. As @Seattlite86 stated, this is actually where the metal expanded beyond the collar and the reeding pushed up over the metal to create the effect I initially had shown.

    On the mention of wheel marks on #80, here is another photo that hopefully shows them a little more clearly and should show why they would likely result in a details grade. I tried to get the lighting at the right angle to make them show up the most in this photo.
    Error80e.JPG

    Thank You.
     
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  11. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    Yes, exactly. They show very well in this photo. Once paddyman provided his explanation, I was able to go back and see them even in your first photo.
    Did you read paddy's link? For wheel marks it's all about the lighting, as you've shown in your new photo.

    Thanks to you and especially @paddyman98 I've learned yet another new thing.

    It's a shame that they can affect a grade so much.
     
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