1795 Draped Bust Dollar, real or fake

A good friend of mine was given two 1795 Draped Bust dollars from his father, who got them from "A very private, large, old collection. It is a close friend's lifelong collection."
I think they are fakes as the lines for centered and off centered portrait don't even come close, not to mention they are in too good a shape for their age, and the fact that he supposedly has a safe full of them.
Feed back please.

 

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Definitely fake. The entire thing certainly looks off. Not sure if cast or struck, but faker than a three dollar bill.

 

Zoomed in on the date on the pcgs coinfacts photo:

 

Big time fake.

 

In my experience, the low quality fakes like this are often magnetic; check and see.

 

Hahahaha.

HahaHAHAha ha ha.

Mountain man, with your experience around here, this is a joke, right? You aren't actually questioning if these are fake? You're attempting a bit of humor?

 

I don't claim to be an expert in any field and even though all of the bells and whistles went off as a fake, and my research also indicated so, I wanted to hear from others before I break the bad news to my friend. I hate it when I'm standing alone and aren't backed up. LOL

 

Yeah, I know its tough to tell a friend they've got a fake. Especially when they're excited about it and convinced that it's going to be really valuable.

But, wow. That's a really bad fake.

 

A lot of surface porosity.

 

They did give her bigger....Ahem...Never mind

She also looks like she's chewing tobacco.
Nothing against women chewing tobacco.
(I live in Appalachia)

 

You can fool some of the people all of the time.

 

What a majestic chicken on the reverse

 

If it were real, in Mint State it would be worth a 6 figure number. How many people do you know give away coins worth hundreds of thousands of dollars for nothing?

It’s a screaming fake with no redeeming features.

 

Fake never seen one before but not enough detail so fake

 

So take I could smell it.

 

All US Coinage has one thing in common - they state directly on the coin the value. This is a token. There is no value stated that I can see.

 

With these old Dollars the value is on the third side or edge.

 

What have you got against three dollar bills? There are plenty of real ones.

Nope. half dimes didn't have the value on them until 1829, dimes in 1809, quarters in 1804, half dollars had it on the edge, but the 1796 & 97 had 1/2 on the reverse, didn't appear regularly on the rev until 1807. dollars were edge only until 1836, quarter eagles in 1808, half eagles in 1807, and eagles in 1838. (the gold coins didn't have the denominations on the edge either.)

I think there are only two things that are common to all US coins, they have UNITED STATES OF AMERICA on them, and they have a date. (Yes i know there are some fantasy pattern half dimes and dime of 1859 that don't have USA on them, and technically the Lafayette dollar doesn't have a date. The 1900 on them referred to the exposition coming up in the following year.)

 

@Pickin and Grinin @Conder101 Thanks for refreshing my old brain.

 

hate to break the news to the friend about the "lifelong collection," if that' a representative specimen.