World silver crown-size type coin collectors?

Here's the only Fulda piece that I own. The picture makes it look dead but there is actually a lot of luster. It was the seller's photo. An auction house that I like but their photos are normally like this.



Obverse: Helmeted 4-fold arms
Obverse Legend: ADALBERTUS D. G. EPIS: ET ABB: FULD: S. R. I. PR:
Reverse: Legend and date within palm and laurel branches, value below
Reverse Legend: PRO DEO/ET/PATRIA./1795., X/EINE F:/MARCK. below

Ruler: Adalbert III
Note: Dav. #2265

 

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@Mat Beautiful hogmouth thaler!!

Nice stuff everyone

 

Here are some newps I got. I collect world crown sized coins (my definition 36mm and up).

Afghanistan 5 rupees -39mm
Both boliviano per numista are 37mm

1896 Afghanistan 5 rupees by Mkman123 posted Apr 22, 2020 at 8:04 AM

1867 Bolivia Boliviano by Mkman123 posted Apr 22, 2020 at 8:05 AM

1871 Bolivia Boliviano by Mkman123 posted Apr 22, 2020 at 8:06 AM

 

1705 Olmutz taler, Karl III Joseph Von Lothringen

 

1543 Saxony thaler, Maurice , Elector of Saxony( Albertine line) and his ‘ dear’ cousin, John Frederick I the Magnanimous , also Elector ( Ernestine line) , head of the Schmalkaldic League along Philip of Hesse and a supporter of Martin Luther.
Sadly the coin was mounted and the edge was tooled so it’s around 0.6 grams underweight , but on a brighter note, I bought it really cheap considering the type and grade !

 

The Schmalkaldic League is a fascinating story. I have thought about trying to put something together for the Coins and History thread. In the meantime here is a similar 1544 joint issue of Johann Friedrich and Moritz. I think yours is probably better.


As you know, Moritz hated Johann Friedrich and joined the Emperor in the Schmalkaldic War, partly in a successful attempt to deprive Johann Friedrich of the electorate of Saxony and get it for himself. However, he later did get Johann Friedrich out of prison as part of the Treaty of Passau with the Emperor in 1552.

I know Half Talers don't qualify for this thread but I cannot resist posting this one with a bust of Johann Friedrich with a battle scar on his cheek. Supposedly this wound was received at the decisive defeat by the Emperor's forces at Mühlberg in 1547. Interestingly, he still gives himself the title of Elector of Saxony and the electoral arms (crossed swords) even though he had to relinquish the title to Moritz in 1547.

SAXONY - Ernestine Line Johann Friedrich I alone (1552-54) 1/2 Taler 1552
The scar is below the eye

 

I don't think it's better and having the edge tooled makes it no grade, but i paid 150£ for it on Ebay! For comparison, same type/aprox. grade was recently sold by Katz for 720 euros before buyers fee and the usual price is above 400, so i'm ok with it as i always wanted to add an early Saxony thaler to my little collection. Plus it's my oldest one, excepting the 1542 , 1/2 thaler , Kaufbeuren ! I think it would be really great to post something related to the Schmalkaldic League , on the Coins and History thread! Also the 1552 half thaler is fabulous, i mean on top of its great rarity, how many coins that display a ruler having a battle scar on his face were ever designed?
I did a little research and found the 1554 one, on his wife's death , Sybilla von Kleve , another great piece!
Unfortunately for me, I've developed a very disturbing medical condition (tinnitus) in my left year, that has a major impact on my life atm, but i'll try as much as i can not to leave numismatics behind, whilst trying to cope with this problem!

 

This one came in the mail today from Karl Stephens. The photos don't show how much luster it still has in the legends.

1541 Öttingen Thaler. It's my first Thaler from here and also one of my earlies Thalers. I see it spelled both Öttingen and Öettingen, depending on where you look. Does anyone know the correct spelling? Or, is it one of those things, are they both correct.



Obverse: Shield of Öttingen arms divides date, ornate helmet with dog's head crest, titles of 3 counts
Reverse: Crowned imperial eagle, titles of Karl V begin KAROLVS

Ruler: Karl Wolfgang, Ludwig XV and Martin
Note: Dav. #9617.

Composition: Silver
Weight: 28.9
Diameter: 40.3

 

Great coin. I love those dog's head crests.

The two dots above a, o or u in German, called an umlaut, represent an e which for some reason, maybe speed, came to be written in that form. Where the umlaut is not available (e.g., for email addresses), the full e is written. Thus Öttingen = Oettingen. Adding the e in either form changes the pronunciation; in this case from Ottingen (which would be pronounced like otter) to Oettingen (which is pronounced like "Ertingen". There is no "Öettingen" with both the umlaut and the e; that would adding 2 es.

 

Thanks for clearing that up. As much as I like my German States coins I struggle with the language. Struggle probably isn't a strong enough word. That is especially problematic when doing my research.

 

Stunning reverse!

 

Here's my newest pickup. 1633 Pomerania 1/2 Taler, under Swedish control. Commemorating/memorializing the death of Gustavus Adolfus. 14.448g, 39mm. Two photos, same coin (I was struggling to get it to look as it does in hand).

 

You are not the only one. I studied German in school and worked one summer in Germany but I still struggle. There is a German expression: Deutsche Sprache, schwere Sprache ! German language, tough language !

 

Wow, that is a really "busy" coin. There is a lot going on on both sides! Amazingly great condition too, good score there Seattlite86.

 

This one also was bought from Karl Stephens at a fixed price of $800. It was my 1st Polish thaler, now I have 5 or 6. I've posted it before here. Recently I've decided to sell most of my French collection and concentrate instead on Poland.

Not due to any great insights, just that we went to Poland 2 years ago and the people there were very nice to us. Maybe having a Polish last name helps?

Poland, Ladislawitz IV, thaler, 1634.

Karl is one of the very few coin dealers from whom I've gotten nice things at reasonable prices. Almost all the others would send me foil wrapped chocolate coins at real prices if they thought they could get away with it.

 

I've been to maybe 30 or 40 different countries, and the Polish are about the nicest folks of all. The women are beautiful no matter how old they are, the men are good hearted mates, the beer and liquor and food is great. Nothing to complain about.

 

His coins are almost always better then he describes as well. I've had coins that he would describe as VF. My thought was, that's an awfully strong price for a VF. Then you get the coin and it's XF (or better).

I've only ever once asked him to send my pictures of something before I purchased it and then felt like I couldn't reply fast enough that I wanted it.

 

800$ for a polish taler in this condition, well, you don't get a deal like this everyday so congrats!

 

I love you guys. You are not scared to pay the price for a good coin, cash on the barrel head!