83 P Nickel rotated die clash

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by 2manyhobbies, Apr 20, 2020.

  1. 2manyhobbies

    2manyhobbies Well-Known Member

    This coin is a pretty nice clash, MY question is. THe obverse clash has a fair amount of rotation to it. THe reverse doesn't appear to have the same rotation. How did this happen? Any advice is greatly appreciated! DSC02391.JPG DSC02392.JPG
     
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  3. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Great die clashes on both sides. Look at the coin. Now look at the clashes and ask yourself, how does a clash occur?

    If you think about it you'll answer your question.
     
  4. 2manyhobbies

    2manyhobbies Well-Known Member

    Correct, Another thing that got me thinking ( probably a bad thing) is the obverse die shows a much later die state than the reverse. IS there a slight possibility that 2 different clashed dies were used to create it? Most likely not, But Just thinking!
     
  5. paddyman98

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    Amazing clash!
    Thanks for sharing!
     
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  6. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    No, not a slight possibility. It's a grand possibility. They are 2 separate dies. One wears out faster and it's replaced.
     
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  7. 2manyhobbies

    2manyhobbies Well-Known Member

    That's the only thing I could think of how the obverse and reverse could have different rotations on them. JUst throwing it out there.
     
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  8. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    Hi 2manyhobbies , You have a good strong die clash coin here. I collect die clashes among almost everything else. I have a nickel that is from a counter clashed die and the second clash put some of the normal design back on it but out of align with the normal design. These stronger clashed die coins like your's are noticed quickly by the mint workers and put out of service. This makes them harder to find.
     
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  9. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    Notice the O from monticello behind Jefferson's head how it is inverted or sunken in. I have seen a few other members on here stating that any sunken in extra letters on coins is a sure sign it is PMD . This is not so and this extra sunken in O proves that die clash coins can have sunken in letters. The letters on a die are inverted and when the dies clash the inverted letters puts raised letters on the other die. When striking coins the clashed die then transfers the raised letters to the coins as inverted and backwards letters.
     
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  10. They are most likely a matched pair. It might be hard to tell. You can print both sides. Then hold both prints facing out and rotated 180 degrees from each other like the original.

    I still do this when I can't wrap my head around an error or trying to match up an RPM. The wife has no idea why I have so many pictures in the recycle bin.
     
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