Hello All, It's been a little while since I last posted on here. Everything is going well with me health-wise (as I hope it is with everyone else on here). I have been extremely busy with precious metals bullion items this last week and haven't been on here much. Anyways, here is another small group of error coins I wanted to post on here to see if anyone has any comments on the type of error, rarity, value, whether it's worth it to be graded, etc. As always, any comments are greatly appreciated and any discussion is encouraged. NOTE #1: Error #59 appears to have an obverse cud die break near the rim between 7:00 and 9:00. I do not find any matching example per the following: http://cuds-on-coins.com/liberty-nickel-cuds-1883-1913/ Weight is ~4.9 grams. NOTE #2: Error #60 appears to have an obverse cud die break near the rim between 4:00 and 6:00. This seems to match example #CU-25c-1976D-01 per the following: http://cuds-on-coins.com/washington-quarter-cuds-1932-1999/ Weight is ~5.6 grams. NOTE #3: Error #61 appears to be missing reeding, particularly on the side closest to the obverse. There are very light indications of reeding noticeable the closer you get to the reverse. the rim also appears to be a high rim on the obverse side as shown in the images below. Weight is ~5.6 grams. NOTE #4: Errors #62-65 are all 1990P Kennedy halves. #62-64 appear to be struck off-center, whereas #65 appears to be an uncentered broadstrike. Weights are as follows: #62 (top left) ~11.0 grams, #63 (top right) ~11.1 grams, #64 (bottom left) ~11.2 grams, #65 (bottom right) ~11.2 grams. Now to the coins..... ERROR #59 ERROR #60 ERROR #61 ERRORS #62-65 (Top Left, Top Right, Bottom Left, Bottom Right) THANK YOU. Tagging: @Seattlite86 NOTE: IF ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO BE TAGGED, LET ME KNOW.
Nice to wake up and look at some neat Mint Errors. I'm just not to sure what is going on with #61 Tilted Partial Collar strike? But why would the edge be slanted that way? Interesting.
Very cool errors. You can submit your cud to cuds on coins as a discovery piece. I think it's ANACS who would also annotate discovery piece on their slab. Can you show more photos of the edge of 61? My first reaction was to think it was put in a bezel. I say that because of the way it slopes up and inwards. #65 stands out as different. Perhaps struck more than once @paddyman98 ?
@paddyman98 @Seattlite86 Thank you for your replies. The idea of submitting #59 as a discovery piece to Cuds On Coins is interesting and I may contact them about details. Here are some additional photos of #61 to aid a more detailed analysis (I will post additional photos of #65 in the next post): ERROR #61 (Obverse facing up, closest point at 6:00) (Obverse facing up, closest point at 9:00) (Obverse facing up, closest point at 12:00) (Obverse facing up, closest point at 3:00) (Note the appearance of copper coming from the rim into the field) Thank You.
@paddyman98 @Seattlite86 Here are the additional photos of #65 to aid a more detailed analysis that I mentioned above: ERROR #65 (Obverse - Note the tops of "B" and "E" in "LIBERTY") (Reverse) (Note the bottoms of the letters in "HALF DOLLAR") (Note the line outside of the lettering) (Note the line outside of the lettering) (Rim edge view) Thank You.
I think the copper coming from the rim into the field helps support the idea that it was in a bezel or some sort of mount, which stripped the metal to the copper. Concur, these are off-center broadstrikes. I think the last one was struck more than once, but I don't know how they determine the number of times a coin was struck...
Both off-centers and broadstrikes will have no reeding as both are struck outside the collar. If partial reeding, they were struck partially inside the collar. (In a way, off-centers are actually "broadstruck" automatically because like broadstrikes they were not in the collar when struck. This is why edge reeding is missing) The difference in terms of attribution is that Off-centers have details that run right off the edge, whereas broadstruck coins do not. I mean, sometimes details closest to the perimeter are cut off, but the actual design is not off the edge. Thus I think these JFKs are all off-centers except the one on the lower right, which is broadstruck.
Thanks for pointing that out. I was so distracted by #65, I didn't really look at the others. I concur the other three are off-centers.
@paddyman98 @Pickin and Grinin @Seattlite86 @JCro57 Thank you all for your replies. The idea of #61 having been in a bezel or something similar seems to be the most likely answer to what happened to this piece. As was stated, the fact that the rim slopes inward toward the obverse seems to be the most obvious tell. If anyone else has any other comments about what they think this may be, please let me know. As for the Kennedy halves: I agree that #62, #63, and #64 all appear to be off-centers, while #65 appears to be broadstruck. I am curious what anyone thinks as far as having these Kennedy halves graded/attributed and what the general range of values for these might be. I will be posting a new thread with another lot of errors soon. I welcome everyone to view/reply to that thread. If anyone has any other comments regarding this thread, feel free to reply. Thank You.
If the JFKs are all MS63 or higher, probably around $60-$100 for off centers and about $40-$60 for the broadstrike. Bicentennial 25c cud probably around $40-$80 (these are all over the place). The liberty nickel is probably worth less than $25 and not worth grading.
Just keep in mind that the values I give are from my purchase experience. John sometimes gives a lower value which I think would be his purchase experience. What's the saying? "It depends what a collector is willing to pay for an error".. There are lists available of values for errors from experts such as David Bowers.. I need to find them and print them out in order to have them as reference! Peace buddy
Agreed, but since I don't purchase error coins anymore, I have no idea what the values might be, or what people might pay. At least you can supply what you'd be willing to pay, which is why I consider your opinion more informed than mine
It's a bit sad when a new member states that they saw something similar to whatever coin they showing, which is usually a minor error or PMD and they state they saw one on ebay or etsy going for a lot a money. Those listings are just so wrong and misleading.
@Seattlite86 Here is an example on ebay at the moment. It's actually a Die Deterioration Doubling issue caused because of a worn die strike.. Sad listing
