GTG: 1927 Indian quarter eagle

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  1. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Put your eyeballs to this one:

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  3. QuintupleSovereign

    QuintupleSovereign Well-Known Member

    MS-62; distracting mark on cheek.
     
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  4. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    MS62+ I like it a lot, but I guess NGC was tough with this one.
     
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  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I gotta go 63 on this one.
     
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  6. LRC-Tom

    LRC-Tom Been around the block...

  7. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Nice, I'm thinking MS62 as well! :singing:
     
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  8. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    I'll guess 63.
     
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  9. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Ah yes, my favourite series.

    The worst area of rub for these is the eagle's left shoulder, and your example looks better than most in this grade range (i.e. upper AU-lower MS). Your coin is nicely struck.

    I can also see some good luster peeking through on the obverse despite the photo; reverse checks out.

    Sometimes it can feel impossible to get a good, spot-free example (or at least that's how I feel every time I go to buy one, but that's never the case when looking through HA's completed listings). You've got a teensy little spot on the first feather nearest the 7 on the obverse, and I'm assuming the black looking marks on the cheek are the appearance of regular contact marks under the lighting.

    Some good chatter on both the obverse and reverse, but no deep gouges (again, a rather consistent finding with this series in the grade range this coin is likely in), though the mark on the cheekbone is the deepest.

    I'd give it a MS63.

    Nice piece.
     
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    ddoomm1 keep on running

  11. Santinidollar

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    Any more? Posting reveal in an hour.
     
  12. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Lotta marks ms 62
     
  13. Santinidollar

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    Sorry for the delay.

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  14. QuintupleSovereign

    QuintupleSovereign Well-Known Member

    Hmmm; methinks an old holder would have awarded a less inflated grade.
     
  15. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    NGC can be generous at times, but then again PCGS is getting generous too. It’s called “grade-flatiron.” Some of what I’ve seen from CAC approved material indicates that they are also moving with the “grade-flators.”
     
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  16. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Interesting. Most of you were too high on the first quarter eagle and too low on this one.
     
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  17. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Yes we were but gold is more difficult to grade. At least I think so.
    Edited to correct spelling
     
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  18. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Here is another Indian Quarter eagle that received the MS-64 grade.

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    A dealer agreed with the grade. I got MS-64 money for it when I let it go.
     
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  19. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    This is absolutely the case. A decade ago looking at NGC graded pre-1933 gold elicited laughter. Now, that is the case for both TPG services. Relatedly, I'm shocked by the amount of clearly cleaned examples (particularly in the late 18th century) that have not been BB'd/details graded.

    I've noticed the same is true for Morgans as well--who cares about face chatter, everything's a 65 now!

    I can only speak for myself, but this has certainly forced me to abide by "Thou shalt Buy thy Coin and Not thy Holder."
     
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